God is dead?

[Hasbinbad]

http://i.imgur.com/gVkzUrZ.jpg


Ward, Iommi, and Geezer back in the fucking house beeyotch.

Holy fucking shit.

This shit is the fucking illest.

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Can't wait for the rest of the album.

http://loudwire.com/black-sabbath-new-track-god-is-dead/

[odiecat99]

sounds good HBB

[quido]

Randy > Tony

=(

[Hasbinbad]

Randy > Tony

=(
Not a fucking chance in hell. I knew you were soft and sweet.

[Hasbinbad]

Sabbath >>>>>>>> Ozzy

[OforOppression]

randy was rad. tony is a beast but you can't really compare to rhodes

[Hasbinbad]

I'm not a skillfan. There's prolly ten million people who play guitar REALLY WELL and are better, skill-wise, than either rhodes or iommi, but only five or six people who lay down a epic lick from their brains that becomes legendary.

[Hasbinbad]

If you're into skill, vai blows away rhodes. I'm into Sabbath.

[quido]

And don't get me wrong, I love most Sabbath, but Randy was out of this fuckin world.

[Hasbinbad]

Guitarsturbation.

[Hasbinbad]

Holy shit Geezer's tone is making my brain melt.

[quido]

Randy has more heart than Tony too, HBB.

Steve Vai is one of the biggest douchebags of all time, both musically and otherwise.

Though I do love this video =)

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[OforOppression]

love me some satriani

[Hasbinbad]

Satriani and Lalonde are jerks too, I think they all did some brown acid.

[Kassel]

I though this was gonna be about Easter =(

[Hasbinbad]

the day of the chickenfucker hare

[OforOppression]

yngwie malmsteen so good ecks dee

[zanderklocke]

Since this is rants and flames...

Metal sucks.

[radditsu]

yngwie malmsteen so good ecks dee

You'll never get diggles back with these kinds of posts.

[OforOppression]

i got bronchitis

[quido]

Yngwie puts Ferrari stickers on his Strats to make him play super fast.

[quido]

I remember the first time I heard the main theme from this (http://youtu.be/eK0rvReE-4c?t=35s) Yngwie song, it reminded me a lot of this (http://youtu.be/-dw5kfLskbw) Nintendo song =P

[Graahle]

Devout Sabbath fan here, but, god damn it Rick Rubin. Must he over-compress every single album? Sabbath can sound so much better than this.

Geezer's killing it, but the bass is a little too overbearing for my taste. Tony still preaching the malicious, grime-infested, break neck riffage we all love, though.

[Ahldagor]

vegard tveitan anyone?

[Ahldagor]

sabbath doesn't need to be making albums anymore. go count your monies guys, you've earned it. it's like the old athlete sticking around too long.

[Barkingturtle]

vegard tveitan anyone?

Hell yes.


That's some kind of fucked up Indian sex-thing, right?

[Hasbinbad]

Devout Sabbath fan here, but, god damn it Rick Rubin. Must he over-compress every single album? Sabbath can sound so much better than this.
I know what you mean, but they drive it so hard that it's not actually over-produced. It's produced on their level.
sabbath doesn't need to be making albums anymore. go count your monies guys, you've earned it. it's like the old athlete sticking around too long.
You're a mongrel son of a flea-bitten rat and a sea cucumber.

[Hasbinbad]

the bass is a little too overbearing for my taste
I'm a big fan of bass-guitar (as opposed to overall bass tone) in the foreground. If you actually listen to the old albums, Sabbath pioneered that and featured tracks that were MUCH more bass-guitar heavy than their contemporaries. I think it has only rarely been done right since: primus, ratm, one or two others..

[Jfertal]

just bought my tickets like 5 minutes ago fuck yea

[Ahldagor]

Hell yes.


That's some kind of fucked up Indian sex-thing, right?

yes, and best during Monday Night Football

[Ahldagor]

You're a mongrel son of a flea-bitten rat and a sea cucumber.

Honest observation? Half true too.

[Hasbinbad]

Honest observation? Half true too.
You could put one bar of the OP song on repeat for four minutes and it would be obviously better than 98% of the shit myoozick of any fucking genre produced in any time period, but especially lately.

The washed up analogy is weak and seems to imply that music is something only young people do, since youth, or more specifically the lack of youth, is the defining factor in much "washed up" athleticism. I disagree. While the rawness of youth certainly contains much to be appreciated, so too does the practiced hand have something to offer. I think that you discount that out of hand without a critical analysis is quite telling about who you are.

[Hasbinbad]

I think that the fact that you discount that out of hand without a critical analysis is quite telling about who you are.
ftfy

[Lron]

I'm not a skillfan. There's prolly ten million people who play guitar REALLY WELL and are better, skill-wise, than either rhodes or iommi, but only five or six people who lay down a epic lick from their brains that becomes legendary.

Thank god someone understands music. You fucking faggots who try to turn music into a sport by arguing that some music is better based purely on how technical a player is dont understand music and should stick to watching sports, not analyzing music.

Some of the best music ever created is comprised of 3 chords....its not about how hard something is to play or how skilled a player is, its about blowing people minds with a bad ass song and EVERY instrument should service the song, no one should be on stage musically wanking to try to look cool to the leet sport metal kids.

Fuck all of you who try to turn music into a sport. Its not about how fast someone can play, its about creating the best song you can that gives you and other people amazing feelings. I fucking hate you sport metal faggots so much, there are no words that would do my feelings of hatred for you justice.

[Hasbinbad]

Shut up Lron.

[Hasbinbad]

You're absolutely right, but just shut up.

[Lron]

And long live tony iomi and black sabbath.

[Lron]

You're absolutely right, but just shut up.

lol

[Hasbinbad]

3 chords that are better than anything you have ever done, rhodes has ever done, satriani has ever done, or anyone ever will do. There is no getting "better" than this. Production quality be damned.
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[Hasbinbad]

Studio version (listen in 720): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucTg6rZJCu4

[quido]

hasbin you're such a custy

[Lron]

Stop saying stupid things jeremy

[quido]

quiet maggot, get on my level

[Hasbinbad]

ok i'll bite, wat is a custy?

[quido]

look it up on the internet and pretend you knew all along like you do most things, hasbin

though the full scope of its implications you probably won't find

[Hasbinbad]

Is that a east coast thing?

I think the closest translation i know is mark.

I once knew a guy named Mark, who we all liked, but we had the kind of crew that would troll each other irl, and this one time he got ripped off trying to buy drugs, so we from then on would make sure to say his name an annoying number of times with special emphasis if he ever got uppity.

[Lron]

Cool story bro.

[Tiggles]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=custy

[Hasbinbad]

I read somewhere bill ward was in the studio. Turns out not to be. Regardless, still dope.

[Alawen]

Holy shit. I haven't seen Black Sabbath live since that last time I saw Black Sabbath live.

[Hasbinbad]

Dis is stone cold pro studio shit. They haven't done an album together since they got too cracked out to make music anymore and Ronnie had a "look at me" party on Ozzy's coattails.

[Hasbinbad]

Obligatory embed of Holy Diver b/coz RJD was mentioned.

All hail Ronnie James Dio, creator of this:

BEHOLD!
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[Alawen]

The last time I saw BS was with Ian Gillan as front man, then saw him with DP when they reformed. I don't really get into these X vs Y battles. Love Iommi, love Rhodes, love Gillan, love Dio.

Metal Will Never Die.

[Hasbinbad]

Yes, but this is 3/4 of the people who discovered metal back in the studio.

They've done touring under the monniker playing the old songs for decades, but nothing new that is anything like the original has happened since then. Not that this is "like the original," but just this recording is a jesus h. fuckton better than anything ozzy has ever put out solo or anything that dio sing-alonged to.

[katrik]

<3 Sabbath. Cant wait..!

[Zadrian]

I'm glad Ozzy got back with the black sabbath crew.

After he replaced Zakk with Gus, I was slightly disappointed. (I understand they had creative differences, but I am of the belief that if you replace long standing members of a band, then that band ceases to exist in it's natural form)

[Zadrian]

inb4

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25662289.jpg

[quido]

Black Sabbath is more dark rock music than it is metal, despite the credit they're given.

[myriverse]

Black Sabbath is unquestionably metal (the downtuned guitars being key), but there's no question that metal has evolved since them. Like every evolutionary tree, the demarcation lines blur. BS still had some blues roots that aren't as present in most subsequent metal.

[myriverse]

^ But um... not like it matters. Cool to see the guys back together.

[Hasbinbad]

Jeremy I think it is no secret that there is no love between us, but I would still caution you to not go around saying things like "black sabbath is not metal" based on the parameters of today.

That's like saying DOS isn't an operating system because it doesn't have a start button.

You can redefine xyz to mean abc on the p99 forums all you want, but the people who actually lived the terms you're flippantly misusing would probably disagree with you.

[OforOppression]

Black Sabbath is more dark rock music than it is metal, despite the credit they're given.

holy shit i didnt think you were actually this retarded

[Hasbinbad]

holy shit i didnt think you were actually this retarded
I had suspicions, but never before did I have confirmation.

[47shadesofgay]

100 years from now, Hasbin's grandson and Jeremy's granddaughter are relaxing with a post-coital after-glow and listening to the latest album put out by James Hetfield III and Lars Ulrich IV band Coppertone:

Jeremy's granddaughter: This shit is so metal, reminds me of that crap my grand pappy used to listen to, Black Sunday or some shit like that. That is more like jazz then it is metal. THIS is metal.

HBBs grandson: I think you mean Black Sabbath, and they invented metal sweety. It's just changed over the years

Jeremy's granddaughter: Changed? Whatever all I know is that Coppertone is more metal than Black Sunday ever was.

HBBs grandson: *sigh*.. so you ready for round 2?

Jeremy's granddaughter: You know it.

~fin

[radditsu]

100 years from now, Hasbin's grandson and Jeremy's granddaughter are relaxing with a post-coital after-glow and listening to the latest album put out by James Hetfield III and Lars Ulrich IV band Coppertone:

Jeremy's granddaughter: This shit is so metal, reminds me of that crap my grand pappy used to listen to, Black Sunday or some shit like that. That is more like jazz then it is metal. THIS is metal.

HBBs grandson: I think you mean Black Sabbath, and they invented metal sweety. It's just changed over the years

Jeremy's granddaughter: Changed? Whatever all I know is that Coppertone is more metal than Black Sunday ever was.

HBBs grandson: *sigh*.. so you ready for round 2?

Jeremy's granddaughter: You know it.

~fin

I like stories.

[Hasbinbad]

100 years from now, Hasbin's grandson and Jeremy's granddaughter are relaxing with a post-coital after-glow and listening to the latest album put out by James Hetfield III and Lars Ulrich IV band Coppertone:

Jeremy's granddaughter: This shit is so metal, reminds me of that crap my grand pappy used to listen to, Black Sunday or some shit like that. That is more like jazz then it is metal. THIS is metal.

HBBs grandson: I think you mean Black Sabbath, and they invented metal sweety. It's just changed over the years

Jeremy's granddaughter: Changed? Whatever all I know is that Coppertone is more metal than Black Sunday ever was.

HBBs grandson: *sigh*.. so you ready for round 2?

Jeremy's granddaughter: You know it.

~fin
I <3 fan fiction.

Heavy metal was discovered by butler, iommi, and ward in the run-up to the writing of this album, but it was certainly and definitively introduced to the world at their first reception of the riffing performed at 4:53 in this recording.

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I defy anyone in the world to come up with a better definition and first appearance of metal than this. This riff is absolutely descriptive of what heavy metal is, and all metal since has drawn most of it's style and form, to this day, from this single piece of music.

[Barkingturtle]

Really pretty dark metal imo.

[OforOppression]

DARK DADROCK

[Barkingturtle]

Really pretty dark metal imo.

I meant to say "dark rock" ironically, but I was head-bangin' too hard.

[OforOppression]

they were the first band to use distortion :911:

[Mandalore93]

Baddies are bad.
Jeff Loomis is the greatest guitarist to have ever lived. Bye.

[Hasbinbad]

I meant to say "dark rock" ironically, but I was head-bangin' too hard.
http://i.imgur.com/AO8FPSV.jpg

[Hasbinbad]

they were the first band to use distortion :911:
Naw dude. Just be quiet. Grown ups are speaking.

[AenarieFenninRo]

While I dont disagree in the least that Sabbath is metal, I wonder what we're all defining as metal in our own minds. Metal styles were around before Sabbath, go back to early Floyd for example in '67. While they're harmonizing lyrics etc there is definitely some metal "style" guitar etc going on in the background (listen to The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" album).

So do their harmonies of voice make them not metal? I would say no, that isn't the case... Was all their music metal, of course not, and I would he hard pressed to say that every Sabbath song was as well... but that doesn't mean they didn't have metal songs.

So what is truly defined as "Metal". I saw one person mention guitar distortion, but that was around before Sabbath... lyrics about the devil, hell, etc... people might refer to that as "death metal" (by today's standards it may just be emo)... but isn't that just a FORM of metal since not all Metal has lyrics about the devil and hell.

So if we're all using different terms as to what is metal, maybe we need to start with defining a common agreement before we go saying that someone is or is not metal, since what I say is metal may not be the same as what you claim is metal ;)

[OforOppression]

Naw dude. Just be quiet. Grown ups are speaking.

fite me irl

pink floyd shouldnt be considered music

[Barkingturtle]

If you have to ask, I'm inclined to think you'll never know.


Typed that with my balls--for extra metal.

[OforOppression]

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[Mandalore93]

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[Hasbinbad]

what I say is metal may not be the same as what you claim is metal ;)
Then you'd be wrong ,|..|

[Lron]

Who gives a fuck what you label it? I have never once gotten into an argument about what is "metal" with any of my musician friends. People who understand music have no desire to play in the sandbox of definition with you music newbies.

Music is either good, or bad. Stop trying to force every fucking thing into a box. When i see guys who think they are totally "metal" and argue about what is and what isnt metal...i just start laughing because they are doing exactly what american idol and all the pop music they claim to "hate" does.

At the same time, i dont care what you call sabbath. Call it metal, call it rock, call it doomacolypitcalgenocidalmegalomaniacal steelmetal. It doesn't matter, it fucking rocks, thats what matters.

Class dismissed.

[Hasbinbad]

this version is much cleaner if u listen in hd, also doesnt have those shitty ads, and also has a mini solo edited in. kind of wonder if they did that last night.

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[quido]

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[Hasbinbad]

^so badass

[quido]

when I was a young guitarist, the sounds Iommi made with those slides always drove me wild

plastic fingertips ftw

[Barkingturtle]

Just listening to this makes my teeth feel loose:


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Sticky thread imo.

[Ahldagor]

You could put one bar of the OP song on repeat for four minutes and it would be obviously better than 98% of the shit myoozick of any fucking genre produced in any time period, but especially lately.

The washed up analogy is weak and seems to imply that music is something only young people do, since youth, or more specifically the lack of youth, is the defining factor in much "washed up" athleticism. I disagree. While the rawness of youth certainly contains much to be appreciated, so too does the practiced hand have something to offer. I think that you discount that out of hand without a critical analysis is quite telling about who you are.

You're arguing from subjectivity, so there's no objective ground to be had in order for a rational agreement to be reached. I like Sabbath, but I've heard all I wish to hear from them. Someone plays a song on the jukebox at the bar I don't flip out cause I've heard it 50,000 times because it's their money they put into the machine and that's what they want to hear. At this point, it's analogous to the Rolling Stones doing tours. Yeah another few million dollars is nice and I don't blame them for doing so, but the majority of their fans are as old as they are and want to be in some nostalgic dream that transports them to their youth. I don't think that that's healthy behavior because of what nostalgia does to the psyche. Sabbath's place in music history is cemented, and they will always get credit for starting metal. Now it's time for them to fade out and go about their lives and let that ego go because there's a point where it's just sad that they can't let it go and abandon their ideas of who they are and what they do in order to gracefully bow out with some class (Johnny Carson comes to mind). If this is their last ride together then great. Make it the last and be honest about it.

Your comparison of music and athletics is flawed. Music isn't a physical thing in terms of its creation where as athletics is absolutely physical and, usually, a competition in some form. I'm not interested in what Sabbath can do now because I don't think they would be willing to drift out of what's expected of them. If they did a gospel album I'd be willing to listen, and, yes, this sounds like what they have already done but with better recording equipment and some odd click on the tom toms (could be the speakers I have).

[Hasbinbad]

^fat

[OMGWTF420]

these links belong in the Metal (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92591) thread

[Ahldagor]

these links belong in the Metal (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92591) thread

whole thread does

[Ahldagor]

^fat

your best ad hominem?

[quido]

btw morans I never said BS wasn't metal - it is somewhat - but even by 70s standards I think BS is more rock music than it is metal, admitting of course that there's no fine line between the two

plz tell me how Led Zeppelin was the world's first heavy metal band too morans

[Hasbinbad]

your best ad hominem?
no, just very quick and super dismissive.

[Ahldagor]

no, just very quick and super dismissive.

oh , btw, gone over the lyrical content of the song? me thinks ozzy found god and now has to preach the way he knows how. gotta love the born agains

[Barkingturtle]

btw morans I never said BS wasn't metal - it is somewhat - but even by 70s standards I think BS is more rock music than it is metal, admitting of course that there's no fine line between the two

plz tell me how Led Zeppelin was the world's first heavy metal band too morans


'Zeppelin is more Tolkien Rock than Metal imo.

[Hasbinbad]

oh , btw, gone over the lyrical content of the song? me thinks ozzy found god and now has to preach the way he knows how. gotta love the born agains
I have. Have you gone over the lyrical content of any BS? Ozzy has always been a professed Christian, if somewhat unafraid to explore the implications of the darker side of his chosen religion.

[Hasbinbad]

I just had a moment where I realized that if you actually compare real satanists of history vs real catholics of history, the satanists would probably be the nicer people, objectively.

[Ahldagor]

I just had a moment where I realized that if you actually compare real satanists of history vs real catholics of history, the satanists would probably be the nicer people, objectively.

Doubtful. How would you set up your comparable table?

[Ahldagor]

I have. Have you gone over the lyrical content of any BS? Ozzy has always been a professed Christian, if somewhat unafraid to explore the implications of the darker side of his chosen religion.

Understood, but it shouldn't be told to people.

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explores that dark side with no vocals. also very good while tripping.

[Ahldagor]

and I failed horribly.

click the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sN-jwumIsk

[quido]

one for today

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[Hasbinbad]

Doubtful. How would you set up your comparable table?
OK you obviously know nothing of actual satanism or your definition of what we're talking about is simply wildly inaccurate, so while this is sort of low hanging fruit, I'll bite. Let's just start with # of lives lost as a direct result of the policies of either organization - catholicism on the one side and satanism (lol) on the other side.

You go first. Find me all the people who have ever been killed by satan-worshippers. Go ahead and count the ones in stories as factual. Add them up, and get back to me.

[Hasbinbad]

U can totally use characters from The Golden Child when u'r adding up your side.

[Ahldagor]

OK you obviously know nothing of actual satanism or your definition of what we're talking about is simply wildly inaccurate, so while this is sort of low hanging fruit, I'll bite. Let's just start with # of lives lost as a direct result of the policies of either organization - catholicism on the one side and satanism (lol) on the other side.

You go first. Find me all the people who have ever been killed by satan-worshippers. Go ahead and count the ones in stories as factual. Add them up, and get back to me.

Is violence the only or the first basis for comparison? That's not a false dichotomy because first is implying a list of sorts. I'm asking on how you make your comparison. You've made the claim, and I'm simply asking what the basis of it is.

[Hasbinbad]

I bet your hedges are awesome.

[GODPARTICLE]

punk's not dead

[smokemon]

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

READ YO SCRIPTURE son. #JESUSSAVES

[Ahldagor]

So this is dead now? No horror movie revival?

[Hasbinbad]

You never answered my question. You simply hedged your statement.

Quit dodging and maybe we can have a conversation.

I asked you a direct question. Answer it or shut the fuck up and quit pretending to have any idea what you're talking about.

[Ahldagor]

Doubtful. How would you set up your comparable table?

Actually, I asked a question first then you berated me on being an idiot and not knowing what I was talking about, so I clarified my question in regards to how you were making your comparison with this post:

Is violence the only or the first basis for comparison? That's not a false dichotomy because first is implying a list of sorts. I'm asking on how you make your comparison. You've made the claim, and I'm simply asking what the basis of it is.

Then I commented from a hope that the thread was dead, but like any good horror movie hero I had to poke the pig, so to speak, and turn around for one second then boom:

You never answered my question. You simply hedged your statement.

Quit dodging and maybe we can have a conversation.

I asked you a direct question. Answer it or shut the fuck up and quit pretending to have any idea what you're talking about.

You've not answered my original question, so how could I not have any claim but "doubtful" to your comparison because I was asking for you to share a little more information.

[Hasbinbad]

I'm still trying to lay out a comparison table like you suggested. I said "let's start" with murder / loss of life.

You've been hedging since.

[Ahldagor]

I'm still trying to lay out a comparison table like you suggested. I said "let's start" with murder / loss of life.

You've been hedging since.

Doubtful. How would you set up your comparable table?

Where did I say anything about how I would make a comparison? This is on you to make the table. I'm a curious party in this. Need a breakdown of "How would you set up your comparable table?" That's all second person, and you still have not answered my question. I suggest you take some time to get out of representational thinking.

[Hasbinbad]

Doubtful. How would you set up your comparable table?
Bolded word shows you DOUBTING my original statement that satanists are probably nicer people than catholics. Then you go on to suggest a "comparable table" whereby we can settle this matter. Since you doubted my original proposition, I suggest that the onus is on you to disprove me, since that seems to be your intention.

However, being the nice guy I am:

http://i.imgur.com/NuLfJoX.jpg

I've now shown you how I would set up my "comparable table," and since you didn't understand a simple description of a "comparable table," I've now drawn you a picture.

I said in response to you that I would START with # of lives lost due to the policies of these organizations.

The minute you tell me how many people satanism has killed, I will give a value for catholocism, and we can continue comparing and contrasting until you either prove yourself a the moran you've suggested yourself to be or you change your mind.

[finalgrunt]

What about how many souls saved? That's what religion is about :D

[Hasbinbad]

What about how many souls saved? That's what religion is about :D
http://i.imgur.com/uiKoVtm.jpg

[Ahldagor]

Bolded word shows you DOUBTING my original statement that satanists are probably nicer people than catholics. Then you go on to suggest a "comparable table" whereby we can settle this matter. Since you doubted my original proposition, I suggest that the onus is on you to disprove me, since that seems to be your intention.

However, being the nice guy I am:

http://i.imgur.com/NuLfJoX.jpg

I've now shown you how I would set up my "comparable table," and since you didn't understand a simple description of a "comparable table," I've now drawn you a picture.

I said in response to you that I would START with # of lives lost due to the policies of these organizations.

The minute you tell me how many people satanism has killed, I will give a value for catholocism, and we can continue comparing and contrasting until you either prove yourself a the moran you've suggested yourself to be or you change your mind.

Where is there a "we" in "How would you set up your comparable table?"

[Hitchens]

Compelling thread.

http://i.imgur.com/amvRPrx.jpg

[katrik]

God hates us all!

[GODPARTICLE]

Christopher Hitchens was a deranged, egomaniacal alcoholic

[Mortiiss]

God hates us all!

[Hasbinbad]

Compelling thread.

http://i.imgur.com/amvRPrx.jpg
And yet you continuously reply to me. *yawn*