Wiping on Kunark Raid Mobs?

[susvain0362]

So anyway, i've yet to raid on p1999 but i did so constantly on live and on progression servers. All the time i hear about guilds raiding on Kunark mobs and wiping? With the 32k hp max limit this seems quite pathetic. 32k Is a ridiculous amount of low hp. On progression servers Fires of Heaven cleared Kunark with 18 people. The game is not that hard let's be honest... (auto attack) and afk.

I just dont see how a guild with 40+ people can wipe on these mobs? That's gotta require some bad players. Or am i wrong and guilds do not wipe at all? Whatsup?>

[citizen1080]

In b4 rnf

[Alarti0001]

So anyway, i've yet to raid on p1999 but i did so constantly on live and on progression servers. All the time i hear about guilds raiding on Kunark mobs and wiping? With the 32k hp max limit this seems quite pathetic. 32k Is a ridiculous amount of low hp. On progression servers Fires of Heaven cleared Kunark with 18 people. The game is not that hard let's be honest... (auto attack) and afk.

I just dont see how a guild with 40+ people can wipe on these mobs? That's gotta require some bad players. Or am i wrong and guilds do not wipe at all? Whatsup?>

I stopped reading when you tried to compare a progression server to p99. LOL

[Kagatob]

On progression servers Fires of Heaven cleared Kunark with 18 people.

Never happened. Watched that pack of children wipe on every mob multiple times with 72. Even RoI (who slaughtered those kids) needed 36+ for the bulk of the encounters.

[Pyrocat]

trying too hard

[susvain0362]

I'm being serious. I hear rumors of the top guilds actually using exploits in VP etc??? Sorry but a 40+ man raid force of competent people should not wipe in VP...after it's been learned before etc...

[Malphite]

I'm being serious. I hear rumors of the top guilds actually using exploits in VP etc??? Sorry but a 40+ man raid force of competent people should not wipe in VP...after it's been learned before etc...

I'm being serious when i say this. No one cares what you think.

[susvain0362]

OK it's not about what i think i'm just asking about the raid guilds...

[Kagatob]

OK it's not about what i think i'm just asking about the raid guilds...

They poopsock, batphone, leapfrog, exploit and troll. There, all your questions have been answered.

[susvain0362]

poopsock, batphone..leapfrog...thats all fine and well.

[Phats]

They poopsock, batphone, leapfrog, exploit and troll. There, all your questions have been answered.

lmfao that about sums it up. People wipe on here due to rushing the mobs too fast. Guilds will make attemps with 12 people on some shit and lose, because they want the FTE(First to engage). FTE is how you get loot here. Beat someone, get the kill, win.

So zerging is the tactic now, although there have been guilds in the past that keep their numbers low and get mobs. That model just doesn't work here anymore.

[susvain0362]

Wiping on these mobs with a sufficient force...its like...doesn't that just seem bad? 32k hp...i've been talking to people on mumble/ts about this and they think im exaggerating things but...dunno man. to wipe on these mobs sometimes...

[Kagatob]

FTE. The solution to a couple of problems and the cause of a plethora of others.

[quido]

harrison meta-troll?

[susvain0362]

Nope. But Harrison and I knew each other in live and grouped frequently. Warrior-Cleric connection. Please Redonk, talk to me...what bosses in VP do the guilds wipe most frequently on? and why? im new to this server

[Frieza_Prexus]

This server focuses on quick engages. Mobs are normally taken within minutes of spawning. This causes guilds to rush the encounters, and the challenge becomes ensuring adequate preparation to engage the mob before the other guild. The large majority of wipes are caused by pulling the mob before the raid force has sufficiently prepared.

There are very few clean wipes here when fighting uncontested mobs. The two most common causes of unrushed wipes, especially in VP, are when someone jumps the gun and sets off an early AE or when the maintank bard makes a mistake causing a cascade of failures.

[Splorf22]

This server focuses on quick engages. Mobs are normally taken within minutes of spawning. This causes guilds to rush the encounters, and the challenge becomes ensuring adequate preparation to engage the mob before the other guild. The large majority of wipes are caused by pulling the mob before the raid force has sufficiently prepared.

[quido]

I have a feeling this guy's gonna be a hit here

[Clark]

http://s17.postimg.org/tllq0flyn/3570_529691170403461_22079154_n.jpg

[Bubbles]

Nope. But Harrison and I knew each other in live and grouped frequently. Warrior-Cleric connection. Please Redonk, talk to me...what bosses in VP do the guilds wipe most frequently on? and why? im new to this server

Was he a good medic in combat?

[Hasbinbad]

Was he a good medic in combat?
i haven't had coffee yet, so i charge the rnf community with taking the baton from me

this dude was harrison's meat shield?

there is a combat medic / butcher joke here somewhere

[Hasbinbad]

And yeah,

To OP, whiping with a sufficient force/composition *IS* in fact pathetic, but

To echo the rest, mobs are OFTEN engaged WITHOUT sufficient force/composition because raid guilds are racing one another for FTE.

You have to remember there is variance on this server so people do not know when the mobs will spawn.

[reddi lol]

They poopsock, batphone, leapfrog, exploit and troll. There, all your questions have been answered.

Sounds glorious

[Alarti0001]

And yeah,

To OP, whiping with a sufficient force/composition *IS* in fact pathetic, but

To echo the rest, mobs are OFTEN engaged WITHOUT sufficient force/composition because raid guilds are racing one another for FTE.

You have to remember there is variance on this server so people do not know when the mobs will spawn.

Why is no one noticing the difference between a progression server and a classic(ish) server.

Progression servers have lower resist rates, better combat and mitigation tables, higher levels of armor (defiant lol)

[Nirgon]

^

If you played live, this and combine you can tell 100% a difference

[Hasbinbad]

Why is no one noticing the difference between a progression server and a classic(ish) server.

Progression servers have lower resist rates, better combat and mitigation tables, higher levels of armor (defiant lol)
I can only compare to my memory of live from kunark to pop.

[Hasbinbad]

And really, I all but stopped playing before pop came out, disappointed as I was.

[kotton05]

Isn't there a diff between resists between blue and red?