Warrior Weapon DPS Chart

[Yaolin]

Max Hit uses 150 str for LvL 45 and 200 Str for LvL 60. Some tank aggro weapons are not included on the chart. If anyone would like the numbers for any weapons not listed here just let me know. If anyone has any other questions or comments serve them up.

Update 1 >>>> None of the DPS calculations take into account PROC DPS, you can figure that one out for yourselves. Obviously all the 14/24 weapons are going to be the same "DPS" if you forget about their stats and yes, it is sad that SCD and any of the 14/24's is just as much melee DPS as Dual Wielding your epic. Koros is correct when it comes to Dual Wield and Double attack rates being [(Skill Level+LvL)/Skill Max], which means a LvL 60 warrior is going to be [(245+60)/500]=61% Dual Wield [(245+60)/600]=51% Double Attack.

Update 2 >>>> Updated chart with updated formula and prices. EPIC proc will make-up the "DPS Rating" difference between the SCD and the EPIC. 30 atk buff will easily boost your DPS by a few % I would assume.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwLk00fzuQQMZ3VlbjBhd0ZVd2c/edit?usp=sharing

[koros]

Pretty solid, except duel wield and double attack rates are (skill + level) / 5. You can remove double attack rate from your calcs as it's useless in determining relative DPS as it affects all weapons equally.

Also "dps" is going to be inaccurate due to misses, and the fact that most hits aren't max. If you want to attempt to actually calculate dps you'd need to use average hit, which vs normal mobs will be near the "sweet spot" of the weapon ((damage x 2) + damage bonus). This will skew up or down depending on relative level and ac of what you're fighting.

[Tecmos Deception]

Also "dps" is going to be inaccurate due to misses, and the fact that most hits aren't max.

He isn't attempting to calculate actual DPS, as should be evident by the fact that the DPS numbers in the chart for amazing weapons at 60 are under 3. It's just supposed to show which are the best DPS relative to the others.

Where did you get your formulae for dw and da?


Interesting to see that this chart says SCD+warding star is more dps at 60 than epic. Haha. Good times.

[koros]

You're right Tec, I was preoccupied when i wrote that post and wasn't paying close attention.

Additionally, the formula should be (skill + level) / 500 and not / 5 (although pragmatically it doesn't make a difference when viewed as percentages.)

As to where I got the numbers, I can't recall exactly, It's been years, but it's something I vividly recollect from live parsing 11-12 years ago.

[Splorf22]

You are missing triple attack for warriors in your calculations. It only effects the primary IIRC so does make a difference.

Also I assume you want to do 1.61 instead of .61, not that it will make a difference (really 16.1 b/c the delay is multiplied by 10)

[Elements]

You are also missing the weapon skill modifier in the calculation. 1hs caps higher than pierce for wars.

[Yaolin]

o noes!!! 10 point difference means u can maybe drop the DPS on piercing weapons down 4% at LvL 60 compared to a same stat slash/blunt.

[Elements]

Yea I did pretty much this exact same thing in excell a while back and came up with the same result. Piercers are about 4.3% less dps than 1hs or 1hb. For raw auto attack dps it looks like scd and wurmy are top shelf not taking into account the attack bonus from epic offhand.

Im not sure if you still can but back when you could dual wield wurmy it was the combo until the 40s where the mainhand damage bonus begins to favor the faster scd and lammy in mainhand.

[heartbrand]

Pretty sure feverblade is better main hand weapon than seb croaking dirk, 11/18 and has anyone parsed main hand bonus to truly see if low delay is better than a wurmslayer (best ratio) in main hand? Also don't piercing weps have lower skill cap for warriors?

[Luchino]

feverblade is the tits. i use it in small groups over mainhand epic.

[Yaolin]

Feverblade nor any other VP weapons are on my chart. If you play enough to obtain those items are hope you are smart enough to figure out what is the best DPS on your own.

The Feverblade is from what I can tell the best mainhand DPS in the game and within a few % points of being the one of the best offhand.

[heartbrand]

Anyone know how atk calculation works for damage? Would be important for determining of losing the 10 weapon skill for a piercing wep main hand better than a slashing or blunt wep with slightly inferior ratio in mh, and whether it pays to sub out off hand war epic with its +50 atk for better ratio off hand weps like katana of endurance (18/30).

[Yaolin]

Wondering what weapon you should use? Bump!

[Vadd]

2H - Oggok Cleaver

1H - Sebilite Croaking Dirk / Edge of Nightwalker

[Elements]

Any chance you could show the values with triple attack at 60?

[Luchino]

even with the offhand epic attack buff it didnt make bis for dps? seems odd.

[Yaolin]

I will try to update both the monk and warrior DPS charts in the next week with all the updated information I have.

[Elements]

I dont think attack values are factored into the calculations shown here?

[Yaolin]

They're not

[Warmonger]

When it comes to dual wielding how do you decide what weapon you put in main hand over off hand? Sorry new to warrior class.


Honeybooboo Ogre War lvl 6

[pharmakos]

When it comes to dual wielding how do you decide what weapon you put in main hand over off hand? Sorry new to warrior class.


Honeybooboo Ogre War lvl 6

there is a STR-based damage bonus that only gets applied to swings from your main hand. its a flat number regardless of the damage/delay of the weapon. as such, a lower delay weapon is better for your off hand... that way you get more swings, and the damage bonus gets applied more times.

however, the bonus isn't as large at lower levels.... so when you first get dual wield, you should just keep your best ratio in your main hand.

this is why low-delay weapons like the Mosscovered Twig http://wiki.project1999.com/index.php/Mosscovered_Twig were so overpowered, and eventually got nerfed.

[Warmonger]

So a http://wiki.project1999.com/Kunzar_Ku%27juch would be main hand and a http://wiki.project1999.com/Ebon_Razor would be off hand? Don't have these just trying to have an example . Thank you for your help.

[pharmakos]

yeah, Kunzar main and Razor off would be max DPS for that combo

that combo also reminds me of another point -- your main hand procs twice as often as your offhand.

[Warmonger]

Ok thank you for your help.

[kaev]

there is a STR-based damage bonus that only gets applied to swings from your main hand. its a flat number regardless of the damage/delay of the weapon. as such, a lower delay weapon is better for your off hand... that way you get more swings, and the damage bonus gets applied more times.

however, the bonus isn't as large at lower levels.... so when you first get dual wield, you should just keep your best ratio in your main hand.

this is why low-delay weapons like the Mosscovered Twig http://wiki.project1999.com/index.php/Mosscovered_Twig were so overpowered, and eventually got nerfed.

Level-based, not STR-based. For main-hand, for all melee & non-Bard hybrid classes, the bonus is [(level - 25) / 3], with fractions truncated. So levels 28-30 get +1, 31-33 get +2, & etc.

The higher your level, the more benefit you get from low delay in the main-hand.

If you want to compare two weapons with different delays for use in main-hand you can use [((base_damage*2)+damage_bonus)/delay]. For use in off-hand just compare [base_damage/delay].

[Stinkum]

Not a warrior question but.. For a Paladin, mostly soloing, which would you use?

http://i.imgur.com/LDC4ShC.png + http://i.imgur.com/X6Rxbnp.png

or

http://i.imgur.com/buLhL1d.png

[pharmakos]

use the 2hander against melees.... root the mob, and only step into combat for a swing once every 4 seconds (less if you have haste). you can even sneak in meditate ticks between swings sometimes, if you get the timing down. turn off auto attack in between swings, so that you don't miss any. getting the "you cannot see your target" or "your target is too far away" messages means you have to wait another 4 seconds.

vs. casters, use the one hander/shield combo for extra spell interrupts from bash

[Stinkum]

Yea, if I was jousting PvE it would definitely be the JICA, but what if you're not?

[pharmakos]

if you don't want to bother jousting PVE then just use the one hander/shield combo probably.

[Stinkum]

Is it worth it though? It would take longer to kill a mob, root resists, early root breaks, and having enough room to do it sounds annoying. My downtime isn't that long right now just tanking and spanking.

[pharmakos]

i'm having a lot of success with it on my red server paladin currently. you don't need that much room.... i've been doing it in hallways inside the castle in Mistmoore and in Kaesora. i'm using an Argent Defender, so i have 5 seconds between swings... i'm able to sit down for a meditate tick between almost every swing. sorta like shaman canni dancing. my downtime is extremely low currently... finishing fights against high dark blue cons with 80% health and 80% mana sometimes.

[pharmakos]

plus its a heck of a lot more interesting than just turning on autoattack until whatever you're fighting dies. :)

It would take longer to kill a mob

it actually doesn't take that much longer. the only DPS difference on my end is that i miss out on ripostes. i'm still getting in just as many normal swings as i would otherwise -- i just get hit less.

[Stinkum]

Will try it out and report back on my results

[pharmakos]

p.s. if you're hasted it might not work out as well

[Stinkum]

I do have an FBSS

[Yaolin]

I saw it somewhere awhile ago...... just searched for 30min.... apparently I'm bad at it.... what is the warrior triple attack % at 60?

[khanable]

10% iirc

[Splorf22]

IIRC the triple attack chance is 1/2 of the double attack chance and fires only on successful double attacks. Warrior DA chance should be (250+60)/600 -> about 50%, so basically it should be: 1/2 single attack, 3/8 double attack, 1/8 triple attack.

[Yaolin]

By successful do you mean that your actually connected on your double attack or just that you took two swings?

[Kutsumo]

By successful do you mean that your actually connected on your double attack or just that you took two swings?

Just that a double attack fired

[Mac Dretti]

Any dps charts including VP weapons?

Best of the best of the best?

[pasi]

Any dps charts including VP weapons?

Best of the best of the best?

Feverblade is currently in its post-Kunark state and is top dawg for DPS mainhands.

Offhand is all ratio, so pretty easy to see which is better DPS wise.

[Geraldo]

Where do you buy?

http://www.bediro.com/images/3/w1.png

[solduios]

Dont forget Iksar other warrior epic http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=29722

[baalzy]

Makes me chuckle that the 2k (at most) Jade Mace beats out the 60k EOTNW once you hit level 45.

Edit:
Unfortunately the Iksar Pikes stop at #5 which is 12/40 10svm (so, I guess useful for a resist set since it can be worn on the back) on this server and we won't ever see #8.

[Vega]

Dont forget Iksar other warrior epic http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=29722

Sadly isn't classic, so isn't in game, or likely to ever be.


Oops, didn't read baalzy's post carefully enough, guess he already addressed this.

[pharmakos]

Makes me chuckle that the 2k (at most) Jade Mace beats out the 60k EOTNW once you hit level 45.

only true for mainhand

EotNW is still one of the best offhand DPS weapons in the game

still way overpriced tho imo

[baalzy]

I agree. It's funny how people will overpay for some stuff. Peeps will pay 30k for jagged blade of mourning when the green dragon eye blade beats it and can be had for up to 10k less.