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Rogean
04-22-2014, 06:27 PM
I need nominations for characters on the live server right now that people feel are the best geared of each class. They will be used as templates for the beta server.

Also include any resist jewelry you guys think would be useful for testing. Must include Item ID's.

heartbrand
04-22-2014, 06:35 PM
Checkraise on red has best in slot everything for a warrior.

boostzombie
04-22-2014, 06:39 PM
I need nominations for characters on the live server right now that people feel are the best geared of each class. They will be used as templates for the beta server.

Also include any resist jewelry you guys think would be useful for testing. Must include Item ID's.

Does this mean I may finally be able to help beta with out waiting till im finally 60?

Argh
04-22-2014, 06:48 PM
A simple solution would be to just use the winner of each BotB, and appoint a char for whichever class hasn't had a botb yet (enc?).

Aelzrith
04-22-2014, 06:48 PM
Cleric - Getsome
Warrior - Kegluas
Shadowknight - Olidaeen
Monk - Hokushin

khanable
04-22-2014, 06:54 PM
Cucumbers isn't the best geared iksar warrior, but he's by and far the sexiest.





DT Taker - Yendor


That's all I've got

arsenalpow
04-22-2014, 09:23 PM
since no one included item IDs, this is Chest in resist gear because obviously i'll never get to wear hp gear. Feel free to use a BIS 1%er from a class C guild instead.

* Name: Chest Rockwell
* Class: Monk
* Race: Human
* Level: 60
* Guild: Bregan D'Aerth
* Religion: Agnostic

* BaseSTR: 80
* BaseSTA: 100
* BaseAGI: 85
* BaseDEX: 85
* BaseWIS: 75
* BaseINT: 75
* BaseCHA: 75

* Neck: Necklace of Superiority id#14709
* Head: Crown of King Tranix id#4504
* Ears1: Earring of Essence id#14714
* Ears2: Fingerbone Hoop id#14751
* Face: Pearlescent Mask id#2403
* Chest: Robe of the Whistling Fists id#12970
* Arms: Shiverback-hide Armbands id#1202
* Back: Siblisian Berserker Cloak id#1619
* Waist: Golden Sash of Tranquility id#11698
* Shoulders: Ton Po's Shoulder Wraps id#1283
* Wrists1: Dragon Hero Bracer id#11584
* Wrists2: Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet id#14646
* Legs: Golden Efreeti Greaves id#4346
* Hands: Celestial Fists id#10652
* Fingers1: Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring id#14699
* Fingers2: Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring id#14699
* Feet: Sandals of Alacrity id#1280

* Primary: Glowing Black Stone id#10404 // Wu's Fist of Mastery id#27715
* Secondary: Shield of Rainbow Hues id#11644 // Wu's Fist of Mastery id#27715
* Range: Thex Mallet id#13390 // Forged Javelin id#21508
* Ammo: Forged Javelin id#21508

* Inv1: Journeyman's Boots id#2300
* Inv2: Large Soiled Bag id#17404
* Inv3: Treasure Hunter's Satchel id#17702
* Inv4: Kavruul`s Mystic Pouch id#17701
* Inv5: Bag of the Tinkerers id#17403
* Inv6: Bag of the Tinkerers id#17403
* Inv7: Bag of the Tinkerers id#17403
* Inv8: Bag of the Tinkerers id#17403

Rararboker
04-22-2014, 10:00 PM
Monk = Aalpha
Wizard = Rakpartha



Ask someone in TMO, im sure they know all the BiS characters on the live server.

Colgate
04-22-2014, 10:33 PM
A simple solution would be to just use the winner of each BotB, and appoint a char for whichever class hasn't had a botb yet (enc?).

when i won the botb on red, i was wearing shit like tattered mantle, and i'm still no where close to having full best in slot

Derubael
04-22-2014, 11:25 PM
Probably easiest to just pull the Nihilum BiS members. 2 yrs uncontested farming on red and a smaller membership = more pixels. Also, since it's PvP, it has the added benefit of being sure they have full sets of resist gear.

Someone check my list:

Bard - Tune
Wizard - Vaporize
Paladin - Willan (? not 100% on this one)
Shadow Knight - Hashtag or Olidaen (blue)
Cleric - ? Duress or Shrimp?
Rogue - Elderan
Ranger - ? Might actually be Internode (blue)
Magician - Macromir (blue)
Necromancer - Can't think of a single Necromancer's name right now.
Shaman - Jeremy (blue)
Monk - Nizzar
Enchanter - Not sure tbh. Lots of well geared Enchanters.
Druid - Portsche (blue) (not 100% on this)


Little different for Iksars though:

Iksar Warrior: Sakuragai (? he's probably missing a few slots, but close enough) [blue]
Iksar Shadowknight: Sentenza [blue]
Iksar Shaman: Turp [blue]

Feel free to chime in and correct this list. These people are probably close enough to BiS to be workable templates for their class.

If someone wants to list the BiS Kunark resist jewelry, that'd probably help too. With a list of characters + basic resist gear swaps, I can just pull all the ItemID's from their inventories and give Rogean a list of items for each class.

Colgate
04-23-2014, 12:25 AM
thrilla for wizard, batlle for cleric, cyborella for ranger, checkraise for warrior imo

Splorf22
04-23-2014, 12:30 AM
Hakata for iksar warriors, although TMO will cry to see 500 people running around with a Robe of the Azure Sky. I stripped Sakuragi's NoS and DHB for Raev; otherwise he was close.

saragirl
04-23-2014, 06:26 AM
Probably Zilo or Internode for ranger.

Elderan
04-23-2014, 11:28 AM
Bard - Tune
Wizard - Vaporize
Paladin - Willan (? not 100% on this one)
Shadow Knight - Hashtag or Olidaen (blue)
Cleric - ? Duress or Shrimp?
Rogue - Elderan
Ranger - ? Might actually be Internode (blue)
Magician - Macromir (blue)
Necromancer - Can't think of a single Necromancer's name right now.
Shaman - Jeremy (blue)
Monk - Nizzar
Enchanter - Not sure tbh. Lots of well geared Enchanters.
Druid - Portsche (blue) (not 100% on this)


Basically people who have BIS including Crown of Rile which is the hardest item to get. I don't know a single Necro that has a crown though.

Wizard - Thrilla
Cleric - Batlle
Necromancer - Rushx
Shaman - Mendian
Druid - Ravi

Nirgon
04-23-2014, 11:37 AM
In town guard resist fix (same as applied to Grobb) to all towns
Dispel mechanics
255 resist cap

+1 tester ready to move on to Velious

Fridge is stocked. Body is ready.

Ele
04-23-2014, 11:45 AM
halfling clerics can never be BIS :(

WTB custom Robe of the Azure Sky or Sal`Varae's Robe of Darkness for halflings.

Otherwise, Elethia is BIS with full ragefire armor and resist gears.

Splorf22
04-23-2014, 11:56 AM
Necro is necrious obviously

Derubael
04-23-2014, 12:51 PM
Thanks guys, so list basically looks like this:

Bard - Tune
Wizard - Thrilla
Paladin - Willan
Shadow Knight - Hashtag
Cleric - Batlle
Rogue - Elderan
Ranger - Cyborella
Magician - Lorea (blue)
Necromancer - Necrious (blue)
Shaman - Mendian
Monk - Nizzar
Enchanter - Xasten
Druid - Ravi
Warrior: Checkraise

For Iksars:

Iksar Warrior: Hakata [blue]
Iksar Shadowknight: Sentenza [blue]
Iksar Shaman: Turp [blue]

Edit: Stuck Xasten in as BiS Enchanter.

Frieza_Prexus
04-23-2014, 01:18 PM
Where can I look up the ITEMID? I'll edit those in as I can find them.

Not quite perfect BIS, but close enough.

Name: Xasten
Class: Enchanter
Race: Erudite
Level: 60
Religion: Agnostic

BaseSTR: 60
BaseSTA: 75
BaseAGI: 70
BaseDEX: 70
BaseWIS: 83
BaseINT: 117
BaseCHA: 105

Neck: Necklace of Whispering Winds
Head: Crown of Rile
Ears1: Earring of Essence id#14714
Ears2: Electrum Black Sapphire Earring
Face: Ivory Mask
Chest: Robe of the Azure Sky
Arms: Insidious Sleeves
Back: Shroud of Veeshan
Waist: Bone Clasped Girdle
Shoulders: Wind Walker's Mantle
Wrists1: Bracer of Quiescence
Wrists2: Supplescale Arm Band
Legs: Insidious Pantaloons
Hands: Ancient Shissar Gauntlet
Fingers1: Djarn's Amethyst Ring
Fingers2: Platinum Fire Wedding Ring
Feet: Grey Suede Boots

Primary: Staff of the Serpent
Secondary: Insignia Protector
Range: Ball of Everliving Golem
Ammo: Turmoil Warts

Inv1: Journeyman's Boots id#2300

Inv2: Large Soiled Bag id#17404
*** Insidious Halo (For 255 Cha to charm)
*** Loam Encrusted Boots (For 255 Cha to charm)
*** Peridot X20
*** Peridot X20
*** Prayer's of Life
*** Potion of Poison Warding
*** Potion of Poison Warding
*** Tiny Dagger X20

Inv3: Treasure Hunter's Satchel id#17702
***PR BAG
*** Platinum Pearl Ring
*** Platinum Pearl Ring
*** Anti-Poison Amulet
*** Spectral Shroud
*** Gold Malachite Bracer
*** Gold Malachite Bracer
*** Earring of Poison Reflection
*** Earring of Poison Reflection
*** Giant Snakespine Belt

Inv4: Kavruul`s Mystic Pouch id#17701
*** MR BAG
*** Crown of King Tranix
*** Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring
*** Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring
*** Earring of Magic Reflection
*** Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet
*** Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet
*** Wolf's Eye Platinum Necklace
*** Cryosilk Sash
*** Hollowed Bone Bracers
*** Pair of Bent Spectacles

Inv5: Bag of the Tinkerers id#17403
*** MISC. Resist Gear
*** Golden Diamond Mask
*** Electrum Diamond Mask
*** Ornate Rune Shield


Inv6: Bag of the Tinkerers id#17403
*** DR Bag
*** Stein of Moggok
*** Earring of Disease Reflection
*** Earring of Disease Reflection
*** Platinum Topaz Necklace
*** Cloak of Shadows
*** Platinum Diamond Wedding Ring
*** Platinum Diamond Wedding Ring

Inv7: Bag of the Tinkerers id#17403
*** FR BAG
*** Earring of Fire Reflection
*** Earring of Fire Reflection
*** Sphinx Hair Cord
*** Cryosilk Cloak
*** Crown of the Froglok Kings
*** Golden Emerald Bracelet
*** Hand Woven Leggings
*** Platinum Emerald Ring
*** Platinum Emerald Ring

Inv8: Bag of the Tinkerers id#17403
*** MISC GEAR / CLICKIES
*** Pixie Pickles X20
*** Fuzzlecutter Forumla 5000 X20
*** Shield of the Immaculate
*** Trakanon's Tooth
*** Shiny Brass Idol
*** Puppet Strings
*** Reaper of the Dead
*** Soulfire
*** Rod of Annihilation
*** Staff of Forbidden Rites

Splorf22
04-23-2014, 02:00 PM
FWIW, rather than doing character copies you could just add a merchant with free items:

All class epics
All Kunark class BP/Greaves
The big VP items: PD Crown/Cape/Earring/Robe/Shield, Hoshkar boots, Sword of the Shissar, Necro/Shaman/Wizard staffs, Wizard/Necro robes
The big sky items: Monk fists, shaman ring
The other normal big ticket items: Hiero, BCG, AoN, Bladestopper, Puppet Strings
Working Blue Diamond jewelery (bracer, ears, hat)


That's less than 50 items and would allow people to get 95% of BiS without too much work.

Ele
04-23-2014, 02:03 PM
FWIW, rather than doing character copies you could just add a merchant with free items:

All class epics
All Kunark class BP/Greaves
The big VP items: PD Crown/Cape/Earring/Robe/Shield, Hoshkar boots, Sword of the Shissar, Necro/Shaman/Wizard staffs, Wizard/Necro robes
The big sky items: Monk fists, shaman ring
The other normal big ticket items: Hiero, BCG, AoN, Bladestopper, Puppet Strings
Working Blue Diamond jewelery (bracer, ears, hat)


That's less than 50 items and would allow people to get 95% of BiS without too much work.

Capital Idea!

Frieza_Prexus
04-23-2014, 02:10 PM
You could also put XP potions on the vendor to level people up. Would save from having to do any coding. Great idea.

Erati
04-23-2014, 02:20 PM
can we pretty pls get a gem merchant so we can turn in the Skyshrine armor pieces without grinding gems :)

khanable
04-23-2014, 02:33 PM
FWIW, rather than doing character copies you could just add a merchant with free items:

All class epics
All Kunark class BP/Greaves
The big VP items: PD Crown/Cape/Earring/Robe/Shield, Hoshkar boots, Sword of the Shissar, Necro/Shaman/Wizard staffs, Wizard/Necro robes
The big sky items: Monk fists, shaman ring
The other normal big ticket items: Hiero, BCG, AoN, Bladestopper, Puppet Strings
Working Blue Diamond jewelery (bracer, ears, hat)


That's less than 50 items and would allow people to get 95% of BiS without too much work.

+1

Rararboker
04-23-2014, 03:41 PM
I think the reason he said a merchant won't work is because it doesn't cover spells (especially if your going from lvl 30 -> 60) as well as skills. So a copy from a BIS character would be less work for the staff.

Erati
04-23-2014, 03:42 PM
A merchant with a Crown of Rile sounds so tasty tho :(

nilbog
04-23-2014, 03:43 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/slave1jango/ClonePIcs001-1.jpg

Freakish
04-23-2014, 03:54 PM
Macromir is nowhere near BIS. He wears alt gear and happens to have a mage epic. Try Lorea, i know she has a robe of the azure sky. Or better yet, look on red. Mage seems to have a high turnover and I don't see them in BIS on blue.

heartbrand
04-23-2014, 05:08 PM
Pretty sure Minie on red is a BiS mage [venril sathir gloves / robe of azure sky / etc.]

Derubael
04-23-2014, 05:19 PM
Updated:

Thanks guys, so list basically looks like this:

Bard - Dekadenz
Wizard - Thrilla
Paladin - Arzak
Shadow Knight - Hashtag
Cleric - Batlle
Rogue - Elderan
Ranger - Cyborella
Magician - Lorea (blue)
Necromancer - Necrious (blue)
Shaman - Mendan
Monk - Nizzar
Enchanter - Xasten
Druid - Ravi
Warrior: Checkraise

For Iksars:

Iksar Warrior: Hakata [blue]
Iksar Shadowknight: Sentenza [blue]
Iksar Shaman: Turp [blue]

I think that's pretty solid. Special thanks to Xasten for grouping resist gear by type and putting it into a list :)

Fael
04-23-2014, 07:15 PM
For bards, Arrisard is best in slot. Is there a human bard on red with both a crown and robe? Other than that, Yibz and Fauss have as much best in slot gear as any half elf.


Dolic

Colgate
04-24-2014, 01:18 AM
Thanks guys, so list basically looks like this:

Bard - Tune
Wizard - Thrilla
Paladin - Willan
Shadow Knight - Hashtag
Cleric - Batlle
Rogue - Elderan
Ranger - Cyborella
Magician - Lorea (blue)
Necromancer - Necrious (blue)
Shaman - Mendian
Monk - Nizzar
Enchanter - Xasten
Druid - Ravi
Warrior: Checkraise

For Iksars:

Iksar Warrior: Hakata [blue]
Iksar Shadowknight: Sentenza [blue]
Iksar Shaman: Turp [blue]

Edit: Stuck Xasten in as BiS Enchanter.

switch your paladin pick to Arzak and your bard pick to Dekadenz and you've got a p good list

also it's Mendan not Mendian

XiakenjaTZ
04-24-2014, 10:02 AM
Can you pull up character files when they are banned?

Derubael
04-24-2014, 11:51 AM
switch your paladin pick to Arzak and your bard pick to Dekadenz and you've got a p good list

also it's Mendan not Mendian

Good call. That should be the final revision.

Can you pull up character files when they are banned?

Yes.

Sylexis
04-24-2014, 12:43 PM
Is there going to be a way to beta buff without becoming someone else completely? I am sitting at 59 atm on beta but if i beta buff to 60 am I going to lose all of my own gear? I prefer a realistic assessment of what to expect with my characters :p

DeadlyApostle
04-24-2014, 02:29 PM
Man that robe keeping me from the list of the best geared =(.

Tune
04-24-2014, 03:59 PM
Robe of the Azure Sky

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: CHEST
AC: 18
WIS: +20 INT: +20 HP: +85 MANA: +100 ENDUR: +100
SV FIRE: +15 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +15
WT: 0.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL
Race: ALL except HEF DWF HFL

Make elf usable plz

Tomm Selleck
04-25-2014, 09:50 PM
Robe of the Azure Sky

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: CHEST
AC: 18
WIS: +20 INT: +20 HP: +85 MANA: +100 ENDUR: +100
SV FIRE: +15 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +15
WT: 0.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL
Race: ALL except HEF DWF HFL

Make elf usable plz
dem barbs,ogres, trolls in robez

Elderan
04-25-2014, 11:12 PM
For bards, Arrisard is best in slot. Is there a human bard on red with both a crown and robe? Other than that, Yibz and Fauss have as much best in slot gear as any half elf.


Dolic

Dekadenz Human Bard with crown, robe, earring, sow sword etc..

SamwiseRed
04-25-2014, 11:35 PM
samwise halfling druid with pkt, 3 wis earring, and golden efreeti boots

cyryllis
04-26-2014, 01:21 AM
I'm pretty sure Dagner http://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Dagner

is better geared than xasten. (ah its close, i see xasten just hasnt updated his profile)

Valere
05-04-2014, 11:40 AM
Beta buff bard is pretty much useless because it only comes with one bag and no resist gear sets, just what he's wearing. Pretty sure my bard with mediocre gear and a few Velious items beats his pants off even with his full VP stuff, a lot of which doesn't really do hardly anything for his effectiveness. Also, beta copied with Sow sword instead of the 10 resist all sword? Really?

Alunova
05-04-2014, 12:54 PM
Beta buff bard is pretty much useless because it only comes with one bag and no resist gear sets, just what he's wearing. Pretty sure my bard with mediocre gear and a few Velious items beats his pants off even with his full VP stuff, a lot of which doesn't really do hardly anything for his effectiveness. Also, beta copied with Sow sword instead of the 10 resist all sword? Really?

Wouldn't "The bard beta copy is missing the instruments and other items/resist gear that are usually kept in bags and required for proper bard awesomeness testing." Have sufficed? Really? I'm pretty sure a lot went into making beta copies possible and this isn't cause for such a laced post.

Also, items in bank are carried over. So you can bring the mediocre gear too. This scenario is why it was set up like that.

Valere
05-04-2014, 03:04 PM
Wouldn't "The bard beta copy is missing the instruments and other items/resist gear that are usually kept in bags and required for proper bard awesomeness testing." Have sufficed? Really? I'm pretty sure a lot went into making beta copies possible and this isn't cause for such a laced post.

Also, items in bank are carried over. So you can bring the mediocre gear too. This scenario is why it was set up like that.

It probably would have been more helpful, but the betabuff bard is missing so much I didn't want to make a laundry list of everything it doesn't have (no katana of flowing water for resist offhand, no resist gear, no resist potions, no bladestopper, no lockpicks, no bracer of the hidden, no fatesealer for hp offhand, no vp proc rot weapons for impromptu agro tanking). The betabuff shaman also lacks both a PE hammer and a reclaim clickie, and is itemized pretty poorly. Friend did it on his shaman and lost 500 or so hp for only a moderate wisdom gain, which isn't really a good trade off on a shaman imo.

Scrubosaur
05-04-2014, 04:03 PM
You get more bees with honey.

Man0warr
05-04-2014, 04:22 PM
Yeah should switch the enchanter buff to Dagner instead of Xasten. No BCG, no cloak period except Cryrosilk.

Frieza_Prexus
05-04-2014, 04:28 PM
Well, if its a direct copy then Dagner should be used. I listed all the BIS gear several pages back to construct the absolute best under the assumption that my gear would be swapped for what was listed. I have no bcg ATM, but I am wearing a hiero cloak. Just check the bags. The difference between Dagner and I is mostly the bcg, cloak, and crown of Rile.

Colgate
05-04-2014, 04:38 PM
impromptu bard tanking based off of a proc weapon? is this guy high?

laughing so fucking hard at those posts atm

Man0warr
05-04-2014, 04:44 PM
Well, if its a direct copy then Dagner should be used. I listed all the BIS gear several pages back to construct the absolute best under the assumption that my gear would be swapped for what was listed. I have no bcg ATM, but I am wearing a hiero cloak. Just check the bags. The difference between Dagner and I is mostly the bcg, cloak, and crown of Rile.

No Hiero cloak equipped or in bags - after the beta buff you have Spectral Shroud equipped, with only other cloak in bags is Cryosilk.

Frieza_Prexus
05-04-2014, 06:40 PM
No Hiero cloak equipped or in bags - after the beta buff you have Spectral Shroud equipped, with only other cloak in bags is Cryosilk.

They must've copied me when I was buffed for Trak. I had all my PR gear on, but I never banked my hiero.

Weird.

Vandy
05-05-2014, 10:20 AM
If there is gear you want, it's not that difficult to come by most of it. Just /beta buff another character class on another account that has the items you want and hand them over. Then beta buff that character again if needed.

Elderan
05-05-2014, 10:43 AM
If there is gear you want, it's not that difficult to come by most of it. Just /beta buff another character class on another account that has the items you want and hand them over. Then beta buff that character again if needed.

Yep, this...

Just recopy and trade as needed. Really don't need Rogean spending time on this when we can do it ourselves.

Man0warr
05-05-2014, 10:47 AM
Yeah I'll just go grab a Hiero Cloak and BCG from EC for 150k to complete my beta buff character.

The templates are supposed to be BiS, or at least whoever has the best gear on red/blue, that's the whole point. I was just pointing out that there seemed to be some mistakes made with the Enchanter one - it's not Xasten's fault.

Rogean
05-05-2014, 10:54 AM
The templates can be modified by any Senior Guide+, and any Developer that has GM Access on Beta.

Erati
05-05-2014, 11:03 AM
So I recharged my beta buff's cleric Necklace of Resolution with a box of the void and it poofed. Tried logging in and out to see if on cursor etc and it was not. Simply vanished.

Anyone had any similar problems with recharging Sky Items on beta?

not sure what kind of bug that is or if its even worth reporting?

Elderan
05-05-2014, 11:10 AM
Yeah I'll just go grab a Hiero Cloak and BCG from EC for 150k to complete my beta buff character.

The templates are supposed to be BiS, or at least whoever has the best gear on red/blue, that's the whole point. I was just pointing out that there seemed to be some mistakes made with the Enchanter one - it's not Xasten's fault.

Create a lvl 1 of any class, copy them to beta and then beta buff them. Then trade needed items to the enc.

I know the cleric has a BCG on him.

quido
05-05-2014, 11:19 AM
I heard the shaman template is gimp.

All real shamans are created in my image. I wear an Earring of Sad Exploitation (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=17057) just to make things somewhat fair.

Halius
05-05-2014, 11:54 AM
This is awesome, I have been hoping to hop into this. Glad it was implemented, will probably hop on tonight and buff up my mage and get in on some testing. Thanks devs!