Vindication and Eradication BP Graphic Issue

[Kegluas]

The current Graphics set to the Chestplate of Vindication and Breastplate of Eradication are currently wrong. They are currently set to the new Velious armor graphics but in classic the appeared as a normal graphic plate BP.

The Chestplate of Vindication was a Grayish/Steel Colored plate BP

The Breastplate of Eradication was a black (like the Black Enameled Breastplate) plate BP

I cannot find proof for the breastplate of eradication but here is a link to LoS archives that shows their guilds first Chestplate of Vindication.

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-02-17

[Daldaen]

Love those classic stats on the Vindi BP.

34 AC, 85 HP, 12 Resists and no Regen/ATK $$$.

Also: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5521


Looks like a normal black bp, not the usual pretty Velious graphics. Kind of disappointing, but it does add a nice twist to the same old looks as the Velious armor.
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That screenshot shows silver and the quote from Allakhazam says black?

[nilbog]

Vindication already had a black (ebcp looking) texture.

Eradication fixed, pending update.

[Scryll]

There is wrong info here from OP. Eradication BP did infact have velious look. And it was greyish color. Vindi one was like ebcp.

[Scryll]

There is wrong info here from OP. Eradication BP did infact have velious look. And it was greyish color. Vindi one was like ebcp.

Source for eradication BP has velious plate 2 look. http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=25206&setcookie=1

[Kegluas]

Vindication already had a black (ebcp looking) texture.

Eradication fixed, pending update.

Love those classic stats on the Vindi BP.

34 AC, 85 HP, 12 Resists and no Regen/ATK $$$.

Also: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5521



That screenshot shows silver and the quote from Allakhazam says black?


The date of the post on that Zam comment is June 2001. In Feb of 2001 LoS looted their first Vindi BP and here is exactly what it looked like.

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/home/archives/2001-02-17/darvulia.jpg

A Grey or Steel colored normal plate BP, not black.

[Scryll]

You are correct on the vindi BP. Velious plate 1 is the same as regular plate look. Velious plate 2 is What we define as "velious" look. So eradication BP is supposed to look like myrmidon/warlord/champion BP Only with a greyish look. Also I wore this BP for 2 years before I changed it in pop expansion.

[Man0warr]

Every Vindi BP I ever saw looked like the Enameled Black Chestplate from LGuk - maybe it looked like a normal fine steel BP for a little bit but seems like a waste of time to change it for a month or whatever.

[Kegluas]

You are correct on the vindi BP. Velious plate 1 is the same as regular plate look. Velious plate 2 is What we define as "velious" look. So eradication BP is supposed to look like myrmidon/warlord/champion BP Only with a greyish look. Also I wore this BP for 2 years before I changed it in pop expansion.



This is not correct. On that database Velious plate 1 is for all items that have the plane of growth armor graphic such as this PoG Bard BP http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=25487. In that database the only appearance for normal plate is listed as plate. Thus meaning that database isnt worth shit because it claims that the Vindi BP has a velious plate 1 graphic http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=25044 which as clearly proven above (even by your own admission) it does not. Type in any of the class pog armor in that database and it will show up as a velious 1 graphic.

The fact that you had one on live doesn't back anything up because you provide no proof. The graphic probably got changed before you looted yours. Please don't post stuff and link databases that you clearly do not know how to read.

[nilbog]

I can't seem to find a screenshot of this. I remember it looking like plate, but the only commentary I can find is on the allakhazam page for it:

I would sell my soul (or the soul of any hapless fool standing near me) for the AC on this thing!

Has anyone got a report on what it looks like yet?
and the reply:

It looks like Umbral.

[Kegluas]

I can't seem to find a screenshot of this. I remember it looking like plate, but the only commentary I can find is on the allakhazam page for it:

and the reply:



Umbral like the SK PoF Armor? in that case it would be like normal plate with a dark color but not solid black.

[Scryll]

This is not correct. On that database Velious plate 1 is for all items that have the plane of growth armor graphic such as this PoG Bard BP http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=25487. In that database the only appearance for normal plate is listed as plate. Thus meaning that database isnt worth shit because it claims that the Vindi BP has a velious plate 1 graphic http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=25044 which as clearly proven above (even by your own admission) it does not. Type in any of the class pog armor in that database and it will show up as a velious 1 graphic.

The fact that you had one on live doesn't back anything up because you provide no proof. The graphic probably got changed before you looted yours. Please don't post stuff and link databases that you clearly do not know how to read.

You might be right , but as I wrote. I wore eradication BP myself for 2 years and it had velious look. Maybe it looked different the first 6months , but when I had it , it was velious look. This is all I wanted to provide

[Scryll]

This is not correct. On that database Velious plate 1 is for all items that have the plane of growth armor graphic such as this PoG Bard BP http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=25487. In that database the only appearance for normal plate is listed as plate. Thus meaning that database isnt worth shit because it claims that the Vindi BP has a velious plate 1 graphic http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=25044 which as clearly proven above (even by your own admission) it does not. Type in any of the class pog armor in that database and it will show up as a velious 1 graphic.

The fact that you had one on live doesn't back anything up because you provide no proof. The graphic probably got changed before you looted yours. Please don't post stuff and link databases that you clearly do not know how to read.

Vindi BP did infact have Velious plate 1 graphic. But this came late (around 9 or 10 months after Velious release) check comment 4th Oct. 2001. from http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5521

""The look of the Chestplate of Vindication has had it's graphic changed to something similar to Velious drops. Yay no more EBBP :)""

I had totally forgotten this.

[Scryll]

You might be right , but as I wrote. I wore eradication BP myself for 2 years and it had velious look. Maybe it looked different the first 6months , but when I had it , it was velious look. This is all I wanted to provide

Im gona correct myself here, reason for this; I don't think it even existed the first 6 months of velious release. I have done some more research on this bp, and did not find any evidence of it even being spoken of before June 29th 2001. Which is 6+ months after release.

[Ele]

Im gona correct myself here, reason for this; I don't think it even existed the first 6 months of velious release. I have done some more research on this bp, and did not find any evidence of it even being spoken of before June 29th 2001. Which is 6+ months after release.

That is the time period where NToV gear got huge stat boosts in addition to Kael drops receiving large boosts/modifications.

[Scryll]

More evidence that Breastplate of Eradication currently has wrong textures:

http://www.agonyguild.com/cgi-bin/menus/index.pl

Here you can see that Prybutok won a Breastplate of Eradication

and here is how it looks http://www.agonyguild.com/events/april2002/pryprimal.jpg

Mind that velious textures are off, but as you can see it should not look like umbral or what it currently is looking. You also gotta remember that the velious textures was turned off by default on live and if you had a crappy computer you couldnt have it on, because you would lag to much.

Here are some more screenshots, these are taken from Legacy of Steel archives:

Ogre sitting next to AoW (Very hard to verify this one from regular Champion's armor, but its darker grey):
http://legacyofsteel.net/gallery/2001/12/images/aowdead_3.jpg

http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2002-04-10/velk_zone_dead.jpg

http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2002-05-09/cursed_dead.jpg

And yes, some screenshots are from 2002 era (Luclin). But it never looked like it currently is looking here on p99. The comment from Allakhazam about it looking like Umbral is false and it has always been false.

This is how I remember it looking and probably anyone els that played in the 2001-2002 era.

I will continue the search for more evidence until this is changed, because the current textures is not classic.

[Scryll]

Here is a screenshot of Vorkon (Main tank in Stasis on Prexus Server) with Breastplate of Eradication (Grombok here on p99).

Left picture is Velious era and right picture is Luclin era (Side by side comparison)

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae113/grombokp99/clown_zpstfbzk8v8.jpg~original

[Vorkon]

Here is a screenshot of Vorkon (Main tank in Stasis on Prexus Server) with Breastplate of Eradication (Grombok here on p99).

Left picture is Velious era and right picture is Luclin era (Side by side comparison)

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae113/grombokp99/clown_zpstfbzk8v8.jpg~original

I was one of the MT's in Stasis, I got my Eradication BP about ~4 months before Luclin.

Quite possibly a graphic swap? I remember Vindi BP being Grey not black though.

[Scryll]

I was one of the MT's in Stasis, I got my Eradication BP about ~4 months before Luclin.

Quite possibly a graphic swap? I remember Vindi BP being Grey not black though.

Yeah the Vindi bp was Grey at first, then it got the ebbp look which it has here on p99, then it got Velious textures like 2 months before luclin. So yeah, it got changed 3-4 times.

[Scryll]

http://www.afterlifeguild.org/template.cgi?page=index_nov01_june02

Thursday November 15, 2001
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/images/tourney/tot3_01.jpg

The Dwarf Paladin on the left is wearing Breastplate of Eradication.

[Scryll]

http://www.afterlifeguild.org/template.cgi?page=kerafyrm

September 14th, 2001
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/kerafyrm/guild.jpg

Ogre Warrior cheering in the background and the Halfling Warrior in the front is wearing Beastplate of Eradication.

[Scryll]

Here is a really old video of a guild called Rising Ascension fighting Zlandicar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4SQtViIp00
At 2:15 you can see 2 Ogre warriors both wearing Breastplate of Eradication.

Honestly, this should have already been made classic by now.
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=25206

[Colgate]

lol man that zlandicar video

like night and day comparing that mob to the fucked up version we have here

[Kegluas]

Here is a really old video of a guild called Rising Ascension fighting Zlandicar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4SQtViIp00
At 2:15 you can see 2 Ogre warriors both wearing Breastplate of Eradication.

Honestly, this should have already been made classic by now.
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=25206

In your video you linked the people wearing the breastplates of eradication show them with the classic plate bp graphic. Your Afterlife evidence however is a lot better. I think the patch to change the graphic happened some time in late Aug or early Sept of 2001 from what I can tell.

[Scryll]

In your video you linked the people wearing the breastplates of eradication show them with the classic plate bp graphic. Your Afterlife evidence however is a lot better. I think the patch to change the graphic happened some time in late Aug or early Sept of 2001 from what I can tell.

Yeah I was actually thinking about this since around that time alot of other items also recived velious textures, so im pretty certain your correct.

[khanable]

gimme dat velious bp graphic

[vouss]

I played in the top raiding guild on zek back in 01, and zlandi fights here are just as I remember them being.

[Scryll]

#classicbefore2016

[vouss]

Did I forget to add in not only do I remember my address and phone number from when I played back then but my teachers name as well? Because I do.

[Scryll]

Bump, still waiting for correct textures and tint color on Breastplate of Eradication.
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=25206