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Thatguy05
09-12-2011, 10:12 PM
This is true. And for some odd reason i am hella excited to see what its all about after watching not even half of the pvp videos in this thread http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37947

Looking forward to new friends and soon to be old enemies after the many gankings to come.

FREE RED99!!!!

JayDee
09-12-2011, 10:15 PM
contact me for free gear and guild invite. I go by the name lethdar ingame.

Knuckle
09-12-2011, 10:19 PM
This is true. And for some odd reason i am hella excited to see what its all about after watching not even half of the pvp videos in this thread http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37947

Looking forward to new friends and soon to be old enemies after the many gankings to come.

FREE RED99!!!!

itll be fun, just look to get with a crew early on or itll be alot harder to learn the ropes.

Thatguy05
09-12-2011, 10:28 PM
contact me for free gear and guild invite. I go by the name lethdar ingame.

Not sure if srs ?? :confused:--- Ill def be giving you a little "contact" either way then br0.

To knuckle i appreciate the tip brohomie. Though i have no doubt in my mind i wont surpass the expectations of myself and others, along with the right crew of course.

Salty
09-12-2011, 10:32 PM
Sounds like <fish bait>

Ames
09-12-2011, 10:37 PM
listen to Knuckle. Get a crew together or join a guild asap otherwise things will get pretty shitty for you fairly quickly. If you HAVE to play solo - Then roll a class that can gate. Make sure you also farm yourself plenty of http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3641.

Thatguy05
09-12-2011, 10:42 PM
listen to Knuckle. Get a crew together or join a guild asap otherwise things will get pretty shitty for you fairly quickly. If you HAVE to play solo - Then roll a class that can gate. Make sure you also farm yourself plenty of http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3641.

Thanks for the tip, even tho alla doesnt list the drop location. I figure if i get the same jump with everyone else when the server cranks up i wont have a problem. Definitely gonna keep an eye out for fishbait if they plan on being anything similar to what was in the videos.

Ames
09-12-2011, 10:48 PM
Thanks for the tip, even tho alla doesnt list the drop location. I figure if i get the same jump with everyone else when the server cranks up i wont have a problem. Definitely gonna keep an eye out for fishbait if they plan on being anything similar to what was in the videos.

They are off a Vendor

Pudge
09-12-2011, 10:52 PM
egg shaped wont be in. would be too gay

gloinz
09-12-2011, 10:56 PM
dont listen to these zerglings a true pvp champ can take on the zerg hordes 1v50 with 2 hands tied behind his back

Titanuk
09-12-2011, 10:56 PM
pumice

Ames
09-12-2011, 10:59 PM
egg shaped wont be in. would be too gay

ill pumice ur face

Gnar
09-12-2011, 11:18 PM
Sounds like <fish bait>


lol

Titanuk
09-12-2011, 11:40 PM
lol

gnar tell emp salt we need him, not sure who can handle the next Emperor Position , Emp Salt, Emp Tilly, their wont be many like them , but lets not forget there Queens, Lady Aloria and Queen Whorella

Yes it is true, there have been rumors of the next box emperor but we will not be releasing his information at this moment

Envious
09-13-2011, 12:33 AM
Egg shaped was elite~

Diggles
09-13-2011, 12:37 AM
salty can i roll in your crue mang

Knuckle
09-13-2011, 09:39 AM
Sounds like <fish bait>

dont exploit this youngling fgt, another minion towards a shawl

georgie
09-13-2011, 09:51 AM
This is true. And for some odd reason i am hella excited to see what its all about after watching not even half of the pvp videos in this thread http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=37947

Looking forward to new friends and soon to be old enemies after the many gankings to come.

FREE RED99!!!!

i will be your pippin just be my merry

Crenshinabon
09-13-2011, 11:35 AM
Man I watched some of those videos. So great. That first one by Smedy is the shit.

greatdane
09-13-2011, 11:55 AM
Don't expect red99 PvP to be quite the same. VZTZ had a lot of ridiculous mechanics that made some classes absurdly powerful or just affected how most fights would have turned out in an environment with actually correct code. I expect a lot of VZTZers are in for a surprise if Rogean decides to go with time-relevant resist rates and damage formulae.

Knuckle
09-13-2011, 01:06 PM
Don't expect red99 PvP to be quite the same. VZTZ had a lot of ridiculous mechanics that made some classes absurdly powerful or just affected how most fights would have turned out in an environment with actually correct code. I expect a lot of VZTZers are in for a surprise if Rogean decides to go with time-relevant resist rates and damage formulae.

I agree there will be a lot less melee kills but I also believe that even if mimicking classic you will find that it's not anything like live was, ignorance was the greatest variance on live that is eliminated here, everyone knows what to farm, where its at, and the quickest spots to level and farm platinum. There is no learning curve therefore no guesswork, also live had alot of ridiculous pvp bugs like being able to charm a PC into attacking red con npcs, and other silly things that won't be coded in I imagine. Just like any game those who play well will succeed.

Nirgon
09-13-2011, 02:16 PM
More surprise with lack of MQ (I'm sure there's a working version for it one way or another right now).

Wonder how they have done on managing item duping. Should be a very different experience without mass duped diamonds/blue diamonds/jacs and ez-MQ.

greatdane
09-13-2011, 02:42 PM
You can get pretty solid resists without rare gem gear, though. If the devs go with classic-like resists, 100 is enough to resist most casts and 150 is near-immunity. My dwarf warrior on VZTZ 2.0 (were my screenshots on the other page from 2.0? I never found out if there was another wipe after that one, but I've heard about VZTZ3.0) had the following gear less than two weeks in:

2x Earring of Magic Reflection (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=1916) (+10)
White Gold Necklace (+7)
Split Paw Hide Mask (+5)
Skull-shaped Barbute (+10)
2x Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet (+14)
Mithril Vambraces (+5)
Bloodstained Mantle (+10)
Dwarven Ringmail Tunic (+8)
Mithril Greaves (+5)
Runed Bone Fork (+10)

With the natural 30 svm for dwarf and +25 for being a level 50 warrior, that's 139 unbuffed svm. A rogue or hybrid can wear mostly the same gear and sit around 100. Add a +40 buff and you're pretty well off with fairly modest gear.

Knuckle
09-13-2011, 02:43 PM
You can get pretty solid resists without diamond gear, though. If the devs go with classic-like resists, 100 is enough to resist most casts and 150 is near-immunity. My dwarf warrior on VZTZ 2.0 (were my screenshots on the other page from 2.0? I never found out if there was another wipe after that one, but I've heard about VZTZ3.0) had the following gear like two weeks in:

2x Earring of Magic Reflection (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=1916) (+10)
White Gold Necklace (+7)
Split Paw Hide Mask (+5)
Skull-shaped Barbute (+10)
2x Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet (+14)
Mithril Vambraces (+5)
Bloodstained Mantle (+10)
Dwarven Ringmail Tunic (+8)
Mithril Greaves (+5)
Runed Bone Fork (+10)

With the natural 30 svm for dwarf and +25 for being a level 50 warrior, that's 139 unbuffed svm. A rogue or hybrid can wear mostly the same gear and sit around 100. Add a +40 buff and you're pretty well off with relatively modest gear.

on classic coded everquest you would be pretty much immune to magic based spells with that unbuffed MR.

greatdane
09-13-2011, 02:57 PM
That's what I said.

greatdane
09-13-2011, 03:10 PM
This is making me want red99 so bad :(

Nimblerot
09-13-2011, 03:19 PM
My dwarf warrior on VZTZ 2.0 had the following gear less than two weeks in:


Less than two weeks? Haha man, assuming red99 has the same exp rates as p99, you're in for a treat!

greatdane
09-13-2011, 03:22 PM
Oh, I know. Leveling on VZTZ was a breeze, especially <50. After the wipe, some people were 50 like four days in because they had some all-magician crew or some shit. I kinda liked that leveling was trivial and part of me wishes it would be on red99 as well, because it's not the leveling grind we're hungering for anymore, especially not since p99. I'm ok with it, though.

The point was that, besides the leveling, a couple of weeks of non-hardcore play can get you 100+ MR on a melee. None of the above items take any real effort to get. Actually the earrings were the hardest.

Nirgon
09-13-2011, 03:34 PM
Take him seriously or not, Gloin would seriously smoke most of you chumps in a joust.

Kelsar
09-13-2011, 03:40 PM
It's true. Gloinz can joust and most of these nerds have no clue.

Nimblerot
09-13-2011, 03:41 PM
The point was that, besides the leveling, a couple of weeks of non-hardcore play can get you 100+ MR on a melee. None of the above items take any real effort to get. Actually the earrings were the hardest.

For most of that stuff I agree. But anything that requires a group to camp will be significantly harder to get because mobs are harder to kill on this server due to correct mechanics. Also, there's going to be no boxing, so it will be much harder to put together the correct group for a camp, so unless you're rolling with a bunch of friends in predetermined group roles, getting good pvp gear as a melee will be difficult for quite awhile imo.

greatdane
09-13-2011, 03:45 PM
The mithril arms/legs are a bit tricky, but at least you don't have to camp a named for them. SSB loses any value after people have been able to camp lord for a couple of weeks, and most of the rest can be picked up while leveling or simply bought. It's a lot harder for casters who can't wear most of the easy resist gear and have to rely on diamond/jacinth jewelry and planar gear, but it's difficult to feel sorry for casters in classic PvP. I do hope Rogean goes with classic resists, though, because then melees won't have to wait ages to become viable.

greatdane
09-13-2011, 03:59 PM
In the interest of curiosity, I thought I'd tally what you can get. A warrior without any real raid gear:

2x Earring of Magic Reflection +10svm
White Gold Necklace +7svm +7svf +7svc
Golden Diamond Mask +3svm +10svf +10svc
Crown of King Tranix +20svm
2x Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring +26svm
2x Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet +14svm
Mithril Vambraces +5svm
Bloodstained Mantle +10svm
Dwarven Ringmail Tunic (if you're small) +8svm +8svf +8svc
Mithril Greaves +5svm
Runed Bone Fork +10svm +10svf +10svc

That's +118 svm +35svf +35svc, or 173svm 60svf 60svc on a lvl50 dwarf warrior. If you go with diamond rings and frog crown instead, you're looking at 141svm 94svf 94svc instead. Throw in some planar bracers and such and you have some seriously hardcore resists before Kunark even comes out. Melees are beastly with gear, and it's not that grueling to get at that point in time.

Titanuk
09-13-2011, 05:28 PM
In the interest of curiosity, I thought I'd tally what you can get. A warrior without any real raid gear:

2x Earring of Magic Reflection +10svm
White Gold Necklace +7svm +7svf +7svc
Golden Diamond Mask +3svm +10svf +10svc
Crown of King Tranix +20svm
2x Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring +26svm
2x Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet +14svm
Mithril Vambraces +5svm
Bloodstained Mantle +10svm
Dwarven Ringmail Tunic (if you're small) +8svm +8svf +8svc
Mithril Greaves +5svm
Runed Bone Fork +10svm +10svf +10svc

That's +118 svm +35svf +35svc, or 173svm 60svf 60svc on a lvl50 dwarf warrior. If you go with diamond rings and frog crown instead, you're looking at 141svm 94svf 94svc instead. Throw in some planar bracers and such and you have some seriously hardcore resists before Kunark even comes out. Melees are beastly with gear, and it's not that grueling to get at that point in time.

yea its just that easy to get all that. should take u a week after you hit 50

Knuckle
09-13-2011, 06:01 PM
Lustruos Russet 4 classic experience

SearyxTZ
09-13-2011, 08:53 PM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s229/brittneynicole33/you-gonna-get-raped.jpg

Ames
09-13-2011, 09:01 PM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s229/brittneynicole33/you-gonna-get-raped.jpg

Look at how dilated his pupils are. ***** is trippin balls in that picture. Not even on this fuckin planet

Silikten
09-14-2011, 12:52 AM
jousting is easy though lol