Please Nerf this Shi+....

[siinge]

Im kinda semi tired of all the non classic stuff that was classic this is not classic here.

Anything that benefits a player is removed. Considered a bug but was in game for years...

Mage pets not being able to DW till kunark.
Mage pets sword procing on anything.
Necro/Sk Fd not falling to the ground for a year.
Swarm kiting being nerfed here.
Necro pets not benefiting from fine steel dagger delay wich made pets gods.
Not being able to afk lvl with a pet class wich was rampent in live.
Charm being nerfed into the ground, when it was opd till kunark.
Pathing exploits all fixed, live for years.

and the list goes on and on

Well check out this mask wich was nerfed well before kunark, with a link with proof but nothings done, this is my 2nd post about this. I posted in bugs but now im posting in general chat to get more attention.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=1877

clerics with necro ability call of bones 8 mana per tick... its suppose to cast fear it was never intended to be better than clarity.

Fix it pls.

[mitic]

you never played on live progression servers did you?

[Soda Pop]

I think most of the changes they have made so far, even though they are not Pure Classic, have been made with the integrity of the server in mind.

[siinge]

you never played on live progression servers did you?

i played on release

[siinge]

I think most of the changes they have made so far, even though they are not Pure Classic, have been made with the integrity of the server in mind.

then a fix is needed because clerics getting a class defined skill on a inventory clickable is a bit opd. It was never intended, like all the current changes here. But my previous post about this was deleted by a mod.

/discuss

[Soda Pop]

then a fix is needed because clerics getting a class defined skill on a inventory clickable is a bit opd. It was never intended, like all the current changes here. But my previous post about this was deleted by a mod.

/discuss

Maybe the GMs deleted your post because of the bitchy nature of your complaints. I'm sure if you came across as someone friendly trying to help them fix a bug, or an overpowered item, that they would thoughtfully consider it. I think the staff here is always open for suggestions on fixes as long as they can be backed up with facts They seem to be changing ITEMS on a planned time line so perhaps this mask will follow suit. If you knew when the mask was changed then you could make a solid case as to when it should have been/should be changed to a different clicky.

[siinge]

Maybe the GMs deleted your post because of the bitchy nature of your complaints. I'm sure if you came across as someone friendly trying to help them fix a bug, or an overpowered item, that they would thoughtfully consider it. I think the staff here is always open for suggestions on fixes as long as they can be backed up with facts They seem to be changing ITEMS on a planned time line so perhaps this mask will follow suit. If you knew when the mask was changed then you could make a solid case as to when it should have been/should be changed to a different clicky.

click the link i posted with proof about the change

ive posted proof links with changes that were implamented prior to the necessary time line, and were never "fixed back" because they benefit a player.

and you wonder why im so angsty... ive been over this before just pointing another one out

[Alawen Everywhere]

CoB doesn't stack with Clarity. It also obviously doesn't work very well with a Manastone. For a level 50 cleric, this basically makes it a situational tool useful in groups without enchanters or when running around solo rezing people. Furthermore, it's not clear if the existing masks were nerfed to fear or if the quest was just nerfed on live.

It sure was great leveling up, though, let me tell you! At low level, my mana would regen to full in seconds! In the 20s and 30s it was as if I had limitless mana! I healed SolB royals alone at level 34! Then in my 40s I stopped grouping because it was faster to solo specters! As a cleric! Can you believe it! And on top of that the 25% xp bonus week when I did 40-50! Holy crap was it awesome!!!

Yep, I sure did get my use out of this awesome mask.

Now on the real topic of what this is about, why are you in love with me? Is it my beautiful eyes and lips or the elegance of my long and slender limbs? I understand your obsession with me, I just want to hear you say sweet things.

Love,
Daire

[siinge]

mooo
Posted: Jul 23rd 2000 3:20pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
fmlawo
Anonymous Score: Default
Does anyone have this mask and can verify the effect is call of bones?? I've seen 2 sources say it's "Fear" so maybe they changed it since the pic?

That would suck HUGELY since clerics have the fear spell anyways.

check post date, check current timeline of this server

link:http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=673

0_o

[siinge]

FEAR
Posted: Jul 24th 2000 1:22pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
Nefarien
Anonymous Score: Decent
The helm casts Fear...originally it cast Call of Bones by mistake, and was changed. With CoB it gave clerics a source for basically unlimited mana, since the ratio on Call of Bones is worse that the ratio for healing spells. Essentially, you could have had CoB up, let your hp drop, and heal yourself for less mana than you had earned. Sorry, that's a Necro thing :) And most class-specific items for ALL classes cast a spell you already have.

check post date again... check current time line of this server...

Its may, post was made in july, change was obviously made prior to july.. so its time to fix it back to fear according to the "timeline".

proof:http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=673

[siinge]

also the mask current works at lvl 1

done die

[Soda Pop]

I don't see any concrete evidence on when when the item was changed, only that it has been changed from its original overpowered state. I don't really see this item as a first priority change anyways, sure its overpowered but it's definitely not game changing like:

AFK leveling
Necro pets with FS weapons

[siinge]

I don't see any concrete evidence on when when the item was changed, only that it has been changed from its original overpowered state. I don't really see this item as a first priority change anyways, sure its overpowered but it's definitely not game changing like:

AFK leveling
Necro pets with FS weapons

yea nothing like clerics getting call of bones a spell better than clarity that works at lvl 1 and there spells counter the hp to mana ratio better than manastone wich was removed from the game

manastones you cant use in planes but this item you can.. yes opd yes game breaking, yes time to fix it

[Soda Pop]

also the mask current works at lvl 1

done die

Hay guys I want to discuss something but as soon as someone gives any rational feedback im out!

[Alawen Everywhere]

It's not better than clarity and it doesn't stack. It's not clear whether the existing masks were ever nerfed on live. Your facts are not clear, your argument is not well constructed and your obsession with me is, frankly, a little unhealthy.

It sure is a great tool for leveling a cleric though, let me tell you! I had so much fun leveling up with my cleric! I'd be a skelly and my groups would ask if I had AoN and I'd link my mask and they'd ooh and ah about how cool it is and then we'd kill all kinds of stuff because I had lots of mana to heal my new pals! Then we'd all get lots of xp and make friends! Except for Portz, he got mad at me for saying he was afk, so we didn't get to make friends. :(

Hey, you need a rez on this corpse in Rivervale, legend? I have lots of mana for rezes because I have this neat mask!

[Skope]

the delay on weapons was added later i think...

and mages and necro pets DO IN FACT DW! i don't know who told you they don't but i can say with absolute certainty that they in fact do. You've always had to give the pets weapons before they do so depending on what level they get DW (unfortunately necro pets don't DW till 49 w/o weapons when it should be 39?).

Necro FD works fine, and again, i can vouch for this personally with absolute certainty.

as for the other stuff, i'm just not that certain about it so i refrain from comment. You should perhaps heed the same advice.

[siinge]

It's not better than clarity and it doesn't stack. It's not clear whether the existing masks were ever nerfed on live. Your facts are not clear, your argument is not well constructed and your obsession with me is, frankly, a little unhealthy.

It sure is a great tool for leveling a cleric though, let me tell you! I had so much fun leveling up with my cleric! I'd be a skelly and my groups would ask if I had AoN and I'd link my mask and they'd ooh and ah about how cool it is and then we'd kill all kinds of stuff because I had lots of mana to heal my new pals! Then we'd all get lots of xp and make friends! Except for Portz, he got mad at me for saying he was afk, so we didn't get to make friends. :(

Hey, you need a rez on this corpse in Rivervale, legend? I have lots of mana for rezes because I have this neat mask!

It was changed, it was changed prior to kunark, ive posted proof with links.
With all the time you spend on eqemu and everquest im surprised your this bad... call of bones mana regen is > clarity, thats why they dont stack. With a cleric healing himself and cob its certainly better than clarity. The mana to ratio is superb.

I dont need any rezes im maxed for 50. I can grind 1k an hour but yawn what else is there to do with 50k banked and all the gear i need.

Btw the best part is after leaving IB on my own. I rolled an alt. The alt is now my main. And i currently enjoy being IB tagged still, access to the forums still, vent still, and i raid next to you alawen but i learned my lesson and headed the advice you gave me. Its working well. I so wish i could say something to you on raids but i refrain because if there was a link to me, you know what would happen.

I still miss you spending HOURS chasing me all over velious, i would younder and youd track, id younder, youd track, youd dot me id gate, repeat. And you had 20 lvls on me. Oh how you NEVER killed me in pvp combat. And shall never get the chance.

Still mad?

[siinge]

the delay on weapons was added later i think...

and mages and necro pets DO IN FACT DW! i don't know who told you they don't but i can say with absolute certainty that they in fact do. You've always had to give the pets weapons before they do so depending on what level they get DW (unfortunately necro pets don't DW till 49 w/o weapons when it should be 39?).

Necro FD works fine, and again, i can vouch for this personally with absolute certainty.

as for the other stuff, i'm just not that certain about it so i refrain from comment. You should perhaps heed the same advice.

you think and dont know... ive posted results and proof about the dw bugs. You have no idea what your talking about, the dely on weapons was in classic, fd isnt what it was. Your obviously a newb necro here, back in jan you could fd and not fall to the ground. As long as you channled the spell you were 100% to get out of combat and not die. Duh pets do DW here, but mage pets didnt dw in classic for along time. You certainly dont read posts and just spout what you feel.

[nilbog]

Siinge.

You need more backing up of your claims.. or it just sounds like bitching.

You said that mask was nerfed "well before Kunark?"

Its may, post was made in july, change was obviously made prior to july.. so its time to fix it back to fear according to the "timeline".Everquest was released in 1999, not 2000. Kunark was released April 24, 2000.

Check it out bro.

APRIL 10, 2000
The Terror Mask will now cast "Fear" instead of "Call of Bones" as previously announcedApril 21, 2000 7:00 am
------------------------------
Greetings everyone!
This morning's update is one of the final updates necessary for the
EverQuest: The Ruins of Kunark launch scheduled to take place on
Monday.

Moving this to bugs, I guess?

[Alawen Everywhere]

It was changed, it was changed prior to kunark, ive posted proof with links.
With all the time you spend on eqemu and everquest im surprised your this bad... call of bones mana regen is > clarity, thats why they dont stack. With a cleric healing himself and cob its certainly better than clarity. The mana to ratio is superb.

I dont need any rezes im maxed for 50. I can grind 1k an hour but yawn what else is there to do with 50k banked and all the gear i need.

Btw the best part is after leaving IB on my own. I rolled an alt. The alt is now my main. And i currently enjoy being IB tagged still, access to the forums still, vent still, and i raid next to you alawen but i learned my lesson and headed the advice you gave me. Its working well. I so wish i could say something to you on raids but i refrain because if there was a link to me, you know what would happen.

I still miss you spending HOURS chasing me all over velious, i would younder and youd track, id younder, youd track, youd dot me id gate, repeat. And you had 20 lvls on me. Oh how you NEVER killed me in pvp combat. And shall never get the chance.

Still mad?

Call of Bones is 8 mana per tick as shown here (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=643).
Clarity is 7-9 mana per tick depending on level as shown here (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=174&source=Live).
I have no idea how one less mana and eleven less life per tick is superior in your universe, but hey, you're a low intelligence narcissist so we see things differently!

Chasing you out of Crystal Caverns isn't "all over Velious". Maybe it seemed like hours to you, but I just liked farming the ry'gorr fort, so I was nearby when you'd grief the other newts. Then they'd pay me to get rid of you. Get it? I had nothing personal against you. My most notable memory of you is the hot girlfriend you posted pics of once upon a time. What you see as an some big nemesis was really just a profit opportunity for a farming druid.

Some people might think the guy who runs away and gates lost a particular pvp encounter. Other people might be narcissists with low intelligence.

So wait. You're one of the horrible losers in IB with no life who does nothing but lie, cheat and steal in order to kill ten-year-old content with GM favoritism? Congrats I think?

[Wenai]

Gah. Nilbog beat me to the post. I had dug up the patch notes and pushed the Terror Forged Mask prior to launch. We have patch notes which specify that it had CoB up until 2-weeks prior to Kunark.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Gah. Nilbog beat me to the post. I had dug up the patch notes and pushed the Terror Forged Mask prior to launch. We have patch notes which specify that it had CoB up until 2-weeks prior to Kunark.

Sounds like I have you to thank for all the fun I've had with my mask, plus all of Siinge/Legend/Oldschooler's jealous rage! Thanks Wenai!

It also sounds like when I go to click my mask and fear myself instead of turning into a skelly, I'll know something's up.

[LazyFuj]

Legend is back, and only took less than a week to rage.

You reroll yet?

[girth]

bah nilbog beat me to it


Mage pets not being able to DW till kunark.
Mage pets sword procing on anything.
Necro/Sk Fd not falling to the ground for a year.
Necro pets not benefiting from fine steel dagger delay wich made pets gods.

has a point - what exactly is up with necro/sk fd tho

Pathing exploits all fixed, live for years.
Not being able to afk lvl with a pet class wich was rampent in live.
No merit, both were exploits and on most servers were punishable if caught. GMs made a good decision.

[Haynar]

Attitude is everything.

Your attitude makes me want to fix everything left on the bards list of bugs, before I touch a single thing on your list.

Haynar

[Dabamf]

Btw the best part is after leaving IB on my own.

lol

[LazyFuj]

Attitude is everything.

Your attitude makes me want to fix everything left on the bards list of bugs, before I touch a single thing on your list.

Haynar

owned

[girth]

Attitude is everything.

Your attitude makes me want to fix everything left on the bards list of bugs, before I touch a single thing on your list.

Haynar

I'll take you to disneyworld if you fix ogre stun immunity.

[Haynar]

I'll take you to disneyworld if you fix ogre stun immunity.
Okies.

Haynar

[Omnimorph]

Okies.

Haynar

Lies!!! you'll be fixing bards until you're old and decrepit.

[Humwawa]

clerics with necro ability call of bones 8 mana per tick... its suppose to cast fear it was never intended to be better than clarity.

Not better than Clarity.

Long lists of game grievances didn't really hit EQLive until later in Kunark. Go troll the WoW forums.

[Yinikren]

OMG WHY IS SIINGE EVEN TALKING AHHHHHHH

[toddfx]

OMG WHY IS SIINGE EVEN TALKING AHHHHHHH

He hasn't since the patch notes emerged :D

[rioisk]

Guys, guys, guys, seriously? Are yall this bored with p1999 that you have to come to forums to complain and argue?