Imitation, highest form of flattery. Now you're just grabbing straws. I wonder how well this helps proving your point of view to be the correct one?


Spoiler: It doesn't. Keep trying.

This is the whole point that you apparently are missing. WHO exactly is expecting you to hand over the camp? Kika, people with your perspective are expecting that. Everyone else is not.

And to reiterate for the thousandth time, why is YOUR expectations the only one that matters? I had to learn this lesson the hard way when I got all bent outta shape after the Kunark launch. My expectations were not met then, but it is my own fault for creating expectations that did not conform to reality.

Your expectations are at fault (apparently) because camps do not work the way that you expect them to. This is because the majority of the players decided (perhaps unconsciously) that the "beach party" model was the way that this server would go, instead of the "waiting in line" model. You could argue that your model is superior all day, but it won't change the reality. Just like people would agree that alternative fuels are superior to imported oil. But good luck changing almost 100 years of dependance on oil. It isn't going to happen overnight and it certainly isn't going to happen by raging and flaming everyone who doesn't drive a hybrid or electric car. You are just going to piss them off and they will ignore you.

Another thing, who exactly is holding this magical list of yours? The group that is there? If so, how can you claim to be the arbiter of something you do not have? If you hold it, what prevents you from tweaking it to your own wants? Since it does not actually physically (or digitally) exist, there is no proof of anything at all. It is like arguing about unicorns. One person says they always have sparkles and another person says only certain ones do. You cannot prove it one way or the other because unicorns do not exist to confirm or deny either claim.

Anyway, writing all that probably wasn't worth my time but I needed a post count +1

That's exactly what we need, GM enforced camps.

Amazing idea; I'm sure Uthgaard won't cause any problems with that.

This thread is embarrassing.

If you're going to just copy & paste my words, at least do so in a manner that makes sense.

This is even worse than "I know you are, but what am I?! I know you are but what am I?!"

You can call the sky green all day, but it wont change the fact that it's blue.

At this gym, the rules they chose to use are that whoever is at the camp and currently owns it continues to own it for as long as they want and can invite whoever they want or pass to whoever they want. It's really that simple.

All these analogies of "IRL the owner of the establishment uses lines!" are retarded because the owner of the establishment has set the rules. Saying "IRL it's like this!" means nothing when the people who are running the show here say it doesn't work like that.

DTs for all !!! :):)