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Spyder73 05-25-2017 11:01 AM

Rant: Elder Holgresh Beads are a bad item
 
/RANT on

Ok, so this items price really grinds my gears and triggers me into rage. Why in the name of sweet clean baby Quellious would anyone pay 140k for Elder Holgresh Beads? This is EC fat cat manipulation at its finest/worst. This is - at best - a 50k item. I get that they don't drop anymore. I had 2 pair of these retarded beads on my Monk and Necromancer and I have found ONE use for them. ONE USE IN ALL OF EQ besides some stupid SUPER niche situation that will happen to someone maybe a handful of times in their ENTIRE EQ EXPERIENCE.(more on this later, but SPOILER, It's pulling HoT)

So Singing Steel Helm has the exact same effect as the beads and sell for 2k. "But Spyder - Bards can't Feign Death and the eye is a powerful tool when coupled with FD".
Is it? Is it really? more on this later

Stalking probes cost 2pp - You can literally buy a rechargeable item that has the exact same effect as beads for 2pp. Bag space? Convenience? Set 5k aside and you have stalking probes for the next 10 years. Am I the only one who thinks this sh!t is crazy?

This item has 0 value to anyone but monks - Don't give me any sh!t about Necromancers needing this.

1) Necros can not use this with a pet or charm up

2) Necro FD is trash compared to monk and Necros pull....never?

3) Necro skeleton pet is essentially THE EXACT SAME THING AS THE F#CKING EYE FOR PULLING IF YOU ARE RETARDED ENOUGH TO PULL ON A NECRO

4) Raid wipes are not a viable options to cast the eye and tap off of. Just get a shaman regen or HEY WAIT - SPEND THE 140K ON Z HEART THAT IS ACTUALLY USEFUL. Raid wipe. RAID WIPE!!! RAID WIPE??? 70+ PEOPLE. YOU DONT NEED TO TAP THE F#CKING EYE YOU HAVE 70 FRIENDS WITH YOU.

5) The eye takes FOREVER to cast and last minimal up time.

6) Do not tell me you hammer off the eye - no one hammers off the eye - if you are hammering off the eye you are full retard. "But Im stuck in the middle of some zone because I DC'd or some other weird and unlikely bull sh!t happened". USE YOUR GD WC CAP THEN YOU POS.

The ONLY viable reason for the Holgresh Beads not to be destroyed upon being looted is if you are a monk who pulls HoT. Halls of Testing is the ONLY ZONE IN THE ENTIRE GAME where you need the beads to pull/break spawns. So basically every guild that does HoT needs 1 pair of beads to help start breaking the spawn and then you don't even need the god d@mn things anymore. A VERY fringe camp where I can see them being useful is Chef in Sebelis. VERY FRINGE

I have a 60 monk and a 58 necromancer that I have used this item with. These beads are the biggest pain in the ass to use and provide minimal to NO value. WHY CAN NO ONE SEE THEY ARE BEING TRICKED. OPEN YOUR EYES BEFORE THE EC FAT CATS STEAL ALL YOU PLAT.

If your only comeback is "they don't drop anymore so they need to be worth a lot of money" then I say to you sir GOOD DAY

/RANT off

Legday 05-25-2017 11:05 AM

Eye think they're pretty sweet.

Spyder73 05-25-2017 11:06 AM

Oh and I didn't even mention the MASSSIVE agro radius the stupid eye has that makes the item more of a liability than an asset in most zones

Pokesan 05-25-2017 11:17 AM

dps monks don't need beads =)

Naethyn 05-25-2017 11:17 AM

Pulling hole on my ranger is def easier with eye. Don't have to run back to the group.

RedXIII 05-25-2017 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokesan (Post 2529437)
dps monks don't need beads =)

/thread

Papa 05-25-2017 11:21 AM

if you think it's a p useless item, why do you care what it costs

Emmin 05-25-2017 11:28 AM

Can stalking probes be used to pull HoT instead of beads?

Spyder73 05-25-2017 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa (Post 2529442)
if you think it's a p useless item, why do you care what it costs

Because it is EC fat cat market manipulation to enslave the common man into servitude of "EC CORP". I have never once heard a compelling argument to why this particular item is worth so much.

Also thought RnF could use an actual P99 related thread

Zemus 05-25-2017 11:48 AM

Can't think of 1 place where training away mobs can be useful?

Wow, bad monk. Just bad.


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