Why not just add "haste 40%" to Ragebringer and add the atk and ac to the stats instead of the seething fury effect? That will fix it

PLEASE FIX

To be honest, I don't remember any of these changes on live, but in my opinion they are welcome to save us from bards stealing everything. Now, if only a server could be re-rolled with these rules.

No amount of changes will ever un do the damage chardok aoe did.

Where to Dl the patch for this?

all server side i think ?

No, to answer my own question. Probably because of:

• Haynar: Added a 30 sec check for dropping aggro if beyond chase distance.

For it to work like kunark era (my memory, [anecdotes intensify]) it would need to be a check every tick. Might work fine for enchanters/druids, but a 30sec check on a song that lasts 18sec taint gonna work.

Yes, you could outrun mobs using strafe-running.

Two keys (forward plus either left or right) plus mouselook to control your facing and keep you from running in a circle. I was taught that trick during Kunark by some random FPS fan I duo'd with a few times.

Hmm. I remember needing sow to get away from the griffon(s)--the big one was fast--in north karana.

For the poster who said this was EQ copying the extreme lazy anti-train aggro in the newer MMO's, umm, they're incomparable. Kunark especially had huge open zones. It's more likely they got the idea to do lazy-lite mechanics during that time.

But it's true MMO's are copying each other all the time. OOC regen (2006) is much better example. But honestly it's really simple. MMO's tend to copy whatever reduces downtime and whatever increases soloing power. Whatever makes players happy. Unfortunately, in a feverish pace to outcopy others, MMO's lose some of their originality and they all start to look/play the same. I mean, you can't have players from the bigger MMO's coming to your MMO and not knowing what to do, right? So just copy copy copy copy.

Why are mobs not mem-bluring when they get back to their spawn point?

no, spell ac is not the same as worn ac so that would not be a good fix. Better to remove the haste element only from seething fury (and add that as a second worn effect).