uhhh id like to know what your basing this off of. When TMO came over to Red they didn't leave because they leveled too fast. If anything it helped them get into the game faster. I watched SOME people leave because they caved under pressure.

I don't know who you are, but unless you have red experience to back yourself up don't make nonsensical claims about the demise of red.

Both AE kiting and charm (swarm) kiting existed on live. Charm (swarm) kiting does not involve AEing at all.

Wow! This is a great patch. AE fix, finally! :)

what a poor update , how unclassic r u going to go? is your goal now that velious us over the refine the classic server where its custom and not classic? might as well play one of the other 100 servers

Are spears and purchased javelins stackable now too?

I think this is a good change. This doesn't really change bards swarming for leveling (most don't pull much more than 25). It does effect bard PLing (from a time perspective) and the Chardok groups though.

The real tragedy... RIP Massive Heartwood Thorn backstab modifier! :(

all i here is it effecting bards, what of druid upheaval and stuff? i use this to farm and often pull over 25 they broke it and its very unclassic, adding unclassic mechanics like this to stop swarm kiting is dumb, as bards arnt the only ones with multi target aoes, Also i did the same farming method in classic, so how does this ''make it more classic''

wanna stop bards? make it the rules not a mechanic. zone wide disruption already sounds close to the rule broken already

Fangz is finally delivering some butthurt to this thread

Carry on ol chap