Red would be fun/not dead if
 

-you guys stopped complaining and actually play the game
-pvp actually happens

it's that simple

Your pixels will be gooooooooone take on me yaaaaa eeaaayaaa weeeeeeeeee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914

Go log in a 50's toon in Seb on red.

PVP happens and it's why the server is dead.

Im gonna laugh so hard if red 2.0 goes with no level limit pvp. Imagine having these guys in unrest kill the teens like BAM! BAM! BAM!

https://youtu.be/3pj-0boPc3w?t=65

Did you play on red? Mans had super twinks at appropriate levels camped in every zone.

Eq pvp is a small community. Most of that community quit here years ago.

Start a new red server and it would do numbers.

I would +1 a new red server or I could + 4 now lol

This really cant be helped though, nature of the game. Thats why item loot is important (with a tweak to let casuals get no drop pieces) because then they have to think about getting overwhelmed by newbs with pitchforks. I seen it happen on rallos.

Either item loot 4 level limit or no level limit at all.

Reason is that sub level 60 pvp is a total joke without item loot. No reason to fight twinks if there’s no hope of loot, essentially no penalty for twink death.

With Sullon rules at least a different high level can come clean up a zone occasionally. The levelers just go to a different zone or log till guy is gone just like vs non lootable twinks so it’s no loss.