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Old 09-16-2019, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
tunare's request does not last two hours, as anyone who has ever used tunare's request will know.
The thing is, it's a charm spell, so just as with any charm spell the NPC gets a chance to break it before the duration is up. That makes it difficult to tell ... and of course I doubt people on live tried using the spell a hundred times in a row and reported the stats, so we don't know for sure what the classic break rate was.

At the same time though, we pretty much do know it doesn't play by the same rules as other charm spells, because if it had an identical charm break chance (which almost certainly includes at least a 5% flat break chance, because EQ always wants you to have a failure chance) then no one on live would ever know the spell could last three hours: they'd always see it break long before that point (typically by 20 & 6 seconds = about 2 minutes after).

I tried a quick experiment just now: I had my 60 Druid do a few trial runs on the closest mob he could find (a kodiak bear in WC, level 15 per the wiki). Tunare's Request lasted 1:20, 2:06, 14:21, and 6:09. What I think is interesting is that those numbers suggest (we'd need a lot more data points to know for sure) that the time between checks isn't a fixed 6 seconds, but that it grows. That would be a perfectly natural way for the spell to work given it's duration. Maybe it was rare that the spell lasted 3 hours on live, but not so rare that no one ever saw it happen, and P99 is correctly having that same chance.

It seems likely that this spell is bugged, because if my basic test results are representative you'd need way too many attempts to ever see a 3 hour duration. BUT, it's dangerous to make assumptions with bad/limited data: maybe the spell does increase the duration between checks, so once you make a few you're clear for awhile, and if we do some more experimentation here we will see it reach 3 hours.

Or maybe it's too low. I'm leaning toward the latter, but really I think we should all do some experimenting to get more data ... and then we should all reply to https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=274822 until the devs get sick of us [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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