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Old 12-10-2023, 11:09 PM
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Perfect opportunity for an inside joke.



https://project1999.com/index.php?pageid=about





https://www.project1999.com/forums/a.../t-179088.html

No evidence required for change to the effectiveness of lifetaps.


https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19






"Historical methodology is the process by which historians gather evidence and formulate ideas about the past. It is the framework through which an account of the past is constructed. Historical researchers often use documentary, biographical, oral history, and archival methods, in addition to many of the methods commonly used across the social sciences. In order to answer the how and why questions of historical analysis and research, historians need to gather all the possible evidence, vet it for bias and authenticity, understand the larger picture presented by these facts, and then make logical conclusions based on what they have learned."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method






A personal sentiment that needs to be supported with evidence, links to posts where a requirement of "substantially accurate evidence/parsing data" has been shown as the official position.

Alright, that about does it for bug reports personally. Good luck to the other posters and thanks to Dolalin for the search engine access; it was game-changing, quite literally.

A personal sentiment that needs to be supported with evidence, links to posts where a requirement of "substantially accurate evidence/parsing data" has been shown as the official position.


- You literally posted a link that supports this position:
"we have a high standard of accuracy / evidence. While we don't need a congressional hearing about every bug fix, throwing us a link to something definitive from a waybacked site"

"Historical methodology is the process by which historians gather evidence and formulate ideas about the past. It is the framework through which an account of the past is constructed. Historical researchers often use documentary, biographical, oral history, and archival methods, in addition to many of the methods commonly used across the social sciences. In order to answer the how and why questions of historical analysis and research, historians need to gather all the possible evidence, vet it for bias and authenticity, understand the larger picture presented by these facts, and then make logical conclusions based on what they have learned."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method

This is interesting information, but not really helpful. We are not historians. Just a bunch of amateur, random, weirdos trying figure out how the game worked 20+ years ago. In some cases It's simply not possible to figure those things out. The information may not exist in many cases. Trying to reverse engineer game mechanics from random posts from 20+ years ago is in exercise in futility. Even If a Rogean and Nilbog were to accept that you were right, the information posted so far hasn't really been that helpful for determining how bard aggro should work back in 1999. No definitive numbers for the hate caps on any bard songs, procs, etc. Just bunch of weirdos saying "their songs are a good taunt". Interesting but not helpful. What cap should be there be. Does it get higher with level? Does it matter which songs? Does it matter whether they are charming, healing? what numbers should it all be?

"No evidence required for change to the effectiveness of lifetaps."
- I don't really know enough about this to comment. In some cases changes are made , that may or may not be classic, to combat mass player use of exploits that were relatively unknown back when the game first released. This might be one of those cases. Either way I'm not really concerned with whether or not the dev's actually make a change only if the standards of evidence are actually upheld by the Community.
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