[karsten]

that's easily taken care of though -- the primary goal of meeting will be to tweak the current system such that there is less grey area. Clearly even afterwards people will still cut hairs on the system, which is to be expected, but the hope is that after meeting, it'll be less so.

secondly, anything that's agreed on will basically have to be done through full consensus. any agreements that we come to we'll pass on to the staff, and if it seems to make sense to them, then they'll approve.

Although, even if they weren't involved at all, i don't see a player-enforced raiding system being a bad thing for up and coming guilds in the future. the current up and coming guilds are looking for agreements that are in their best interest as well, so the decisions will also last for posterity. and they're certainly tweakable in the future as well.

So, i do see what you're saying audacious, and hopefully some of these thoughts address your observations. Also, who do you mean by IB's primary-opposition guildleader?