erati you forgot the diff between a scheduled raid and a response to a drop of the dime bphone. We got less for vulak way less.
As for him gating, we played by the new server rules so had to take a break, kind of sucked but we got him after the hour.
You make a great point we do track, we just don't reward it in DKP and not for full neck beard Windows. other guilds can't do or fill the role we fall into due to their all way behind us on progression with gear/knowledge. Other guilds would fail then get punked by a/a after their hour. It's a big leap imo to try to dabble in the raid zones especially after you fail a few times and don't know enough of the players/rules that are in place.
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