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Old 10-12-2011, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Whinepost about experience #19121235847

We get it. You "pvpers" aren't anywhere near as hardcore as you pretended to be on the forums for the months leading up to this beta.
Had to click "view post" because you've been on ignore for a while.

It has nothing to do with XP. It's a matter of principle; the current beta model severely limits the amount of feedback and data that can be provided because people have to level and gear their characters themselves. It's not about being hardcore (you're the only one who ever brings this up) and it's not about winning the beta, it's about getting enough out of the testing phase, which we aren't with the way things are right now.

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Originally Posted by Harrison
PVP doesn't only exist in preselected levels with max gear for that level handed out. Shit happens inbetween and to ignore that dynamic of leveling while pvping, is not proper testing.
The dynamic of leveling while PvPing does not need to be tested to any great extent. Nothing's broken regarding having to watch your back, having to sometimes PvP with a mob on you, having to /who every five seconds or moving zones every couple of hours when it gets too hot. The game mechanics don't factor into the act of leveling while PvPing. That's guaranteed to work by virtue of the core game being sufficiently classic and fully functional. Nobody is suggesting to bump everyone to level 50 with raid gear, we just need to conduct heavy-duty game mechanic tests and find bugs with all classes (not just the few that are easy to solo/duo up or are overpowered in classic PvP), hence suggestions such as:

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> Disable any form of XP gain.

> Put an NPC in each city that bumps your level to x. Every few days, x goes up by 10.

> Put a vendor next to the leveling NPC with free gear that's common at whatever the current level bracket is.

> Make one of the zones non-PvP but /duel enabled and have an NPC that casts a +500 mana and HP regen buff on you when hailed. Buff fades if you leave that zone.
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Originally Posted by Harrison
I've never once beta tested an mmo that auto leveled you. There's a reason for that.
I don't really care about your uncool story. The numbers here speak for themselves - hardly anyone is testing because they have to level and gear their characters, and if they want to test something else, they have to do it all over again. There's like 20-30 people on the test server most of the day. There's a reason for that.

Nobody has posted extensive resist data. Nobody has provided meaningful analysis of game mechanics. Nobody has made a concerted effort to test anything in-depth. This is because this beta has yet to provide them with the tools to do so, and because forcing people to level and gear up manually has instead encouraged the few who did so to play the game rather than test the game. How can anyone be expected to want to make the effort to test extensively if they can't even get access to the classes, levels and resists required to do so?

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Originally Posted by Harrison
Also:
This community is 9/10 shit.
You're pretty much one of the worst shitstains around. You contribute nothing whatsoever, all you do is post your useless drivel in every single thread, grasping at every possible chance to insult people. You're the worst type of person any community can have because, unlike most of the other trolls, you actually mean it. You're a worthless, pitiful imbecile with a crippled self-esteem who can only feel better about himself by flinging shit at others. None of your posts have basis in anything remotely relevant and you add nothing to the effort of moving the beta along. You think pointing people out as whiners somehow makes you better. In reality you're a sad, insecure nobody whose only way of expressing himself is by meaningless hostility. Nobody likes you, nobody cares about you, and you're hindering the beta by discouraging any and every discussion that takes place. You're the troll who isn't trolling for fun, and that's a seriously sad thing.