Necro vs Enchanter Charm

[HippoNipple]

How would you compare a necro charm vs enchanter charm? Charisma for an enchanter matters, so assume 200+ charisma. Also, are there any deciding factors on how a necro charm performs other than level of mob vs level of caster?

[Aerar]

well its undead vs everything so there is that

[Ele]

charisma only matters for enchanter charm and vendoring goods.

necros and druids don't care.

[Jauna]

Cha is a small factor in any charm. Charm duration is mostly your level vs the targets level+its MR

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cha is a small factor in any charm. Charm duration is mostly your level vs the targets level+its MR

Brad McQuaid: "CHA: affects amount you will be paid for goods by NPC merchants, and how much they will pay you; affects the saving throw on certain bard and enchanter spells (charms in particular) http://web.archive.org/web/200004142...erquest+News#0

I know I read that wisdom affects Druid charm, but can't find it at the moment.

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by Lyra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Brad McQuaid: "CHA: affects amount you will be paid for goods by NPC merchants, and how much they will pay you; affects the saving throw on certain bard and enchanter spells (charms in particular) http://web.archive.org/web/200004142...erquest+News#0

I know I read that wisdom affects Druid charm, but can't find it at the moment.

Yeah, I never said cha was useless. But it is a small factor in charming. Level>MR>Cha

A level 50 necro would have an easier time charming a level 40 mob then a level 45.

A level 50 enchanter would have an easier time charming the same level 45 mob then the necro just because of Tash alone.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I never said cha was useless. But it is a small factor in charming. Level>MR>Cha

A level 50 necro would have an easier time charming a level 40 mob then a level 45.

A level 50 enchanter would have an easier time charming the same level 45 mob then the necro just because of Tash alone.

200+ cha makes a huge difference in charm duration on this server, try it out.

[Malone88]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I never said cha was useless. But it is a small factor in charming. Level>MR>Cha

A level 50 necro would have an easier time charming a level 40 mob then a level 45.

A level 50 enchanter would have an easier time charming the same level 45 mob then the necro just because of Tash alone.

Level difference, by far, is most important factor.

I don't think a level 50 enchanter will be able to hold down a level 45 mob either, even with 200+ CHA and Tash on the mob. A level 40 mob (or light blue) will last MUCH longer for both Chanter and Necro (and be much less dangerous on breaks).

With regards to duoing with a Cleric, as Samwise pointed out, don't think a Necro can haste his charmed pet, and that tips the scales in the Enchanter's favor (IMO). Perhaps I'm wrong on this, haven't played a high-lev Necro...

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A level 50 enchanter would have an easier time charming the same level 45 mob then the necro just because of Tash alone.

Pretty much this.

[HippoNipple]

One of you geniuses of PvE need to drop some knowledge in this thread. I'm assuming enchanters still out class necromancers in charming undead but you never know. Even if it was that way in classic things here aren't always the same. Does anyone have any experience with both on this server?