Game Mechanics: Lord Vyemm's stats - Page 12

Buhbuh · #**111** 09-04-2015, 04:21 PM

Yeah, I think our first kill on Vyemm in week 1 parsed really high, too. Vyemm wasn't 700k (in just melee damage), but I'm pretty certain it was around 450k. But these fights should only be lasting 2-3 minutes with 80-90 people.

I don't even know why he was changed on our servers. Wasn't he already hitting for 1190 in week 1 here? I think his HP was higher than it was on live already, and he still died.

It's fine if the developers just want to say, "This is staying where it's at. We've decided to keep its difficulty this way, and it's just something you'll have to deal with."

But if we're going with classic, Vyemm was only hard because your heal team had to keep it together and be on point for that short duration (and your tanks could still be in trouble). Right now he's like, what, a 10 minute fight? That's absurd.

In fact, if we're to believe the HP values of all the mobs in NToV that are listed in this thread, the majority of them are way, way off. Eashen is definitely not 100k HP. Kreizenn is not 200k. Cekenar 150? Sevalak 100k? Zlexak 66k (double a Kunark dragon)? Not even close.

Daldaen · #**112** 09-04-2015, 04:35 PM

Make it classic cause classic is best.

Remove the Luclin roaming drakes as well, edit some faction values based on my recent parses from live.

Then rejoice in classic NToV.

heartbrand · #**113** 09-04-2015, 06:17 PM

Unfortunately, many of the buffed mobs here cater to the Zergs the staff seemingly dislike. Nothing would be better for competition and smaller raid crews than to tune the mobs correctly. The HP definitely seems out of whack. Here's some HP parses:

/GU Ikatiar the Venom in 137s, 197k @1440dps --- Gream 11k @91dps --- Rabid 10k @84dps --- Cutter 9k @72dps --- Muhh 9k @76dps --- Grannock 9k @74dps --- Chiggen 9k @75dps --- Nakor 9k @74dps --- Gaping 8k @74dps --- Guttzs 8k @68dps --- Checkraise 8k @65dps

/GU Klandicar in 100s, 136k @1358dps --- Grannock 9k @92dps --- Gaping 9k @101dps --- Checkraise 8k @86dps --- Gream 7k @78dps --- Rabid 7k @76dps --- Tyranny 6k @70dps --- Cutter 6k @66dps --- Chuckslaw 5k @67dps --- Stigmata 5k @51dps --- Chiggen 5k @52dps

/GU Aaryonar in 345s, 389k @1126dps --- Cutter 20k @63dps --- Grannock 19k @61dps --- Tyranny 18k @59dps --- Rabid 18k @58dps --- Muhh 18k @58dps --- Engelburt 17k @54dps --- Stigmata 17k @55dps --- Checkraise 17k @54dps --- Gaping 16k @57dps --- Nakor 14k @45dps

/GU Eashen of the Sky in 161s, 175k @1087dps --- Cutter 10k @78dps --- Tyrionn 10k @77dps --- Rabid 9k @89dps --- Grannock 9k @78dps --- Stigmata 8k @65dps --- Little 8k @56dps --- Guttzs 8k @71dps --- Rygrim 7k @57dps --- Muhh 7k @75dps --- Checkraise 7k @43dps

/GU Dozekar the Cursed in 298s, 326k @1092dps --- Cutter 24k @85dps --- Rabid 22k @80dps --- Purse 20k @70dps --- Checkraise 19k @67dps --- Colgate 19k @64dps --- Muhh 19k @67dps --- Grannock 15k @53dps --- Guttzs 14k @50dps --- Chiggen 14k @49dps --- Rygrim 13k @44dps

/GU Lord Kreizenn in 177s, 285k @1610dps --- Deetz 15k @86dps --- Grannock 15k @84dps --- Colgate 12k @92dps --- Rabid 12k @70dps --- Muhh 12k @67dps --- Guttzs 11k @67dps --- Gongshow 11k @79dps --- Eoghan 11k @63dps --- Little 11k @61dps --- Chiggen 10k @58dps

/GU Lord Feshlak in 214s, 299k @1395dps --- Cwall 18k @87dps --- Deetz 16k @77dps --- Cutter 16k @73dps --- Rabid 13k @60dps --- Grannock 12k @58dps --- Muhh 11k @52dps --- Rygrim 10k @49dps --- Chiggen 10k @47dps --- Gummybear 10k @47dps --- Colgate 10k @58dps

/GU Dagarn the Destroyer in 130s, 200k @1535dps --- Deetz 12k @96dps --- Grannock 10k @81dps --- Muhh 10k @86dps --- Tyrionn 9k @77dps --- Gream 9k @69dps --- Rabid 8k @69dps --- Rocknrolla 8k @66dps --- Cutter 8k @64dps --- Chiggen 8k @60dps --- Stigmata 7k @62dps

/GU Dain Frostreaver IV in 362s, 372k @1028dps --- Gream 23k @64dps --- Deetz 18k @51dps --- Cutter 17k @57dps --- Tyrionn 16k @46dps --- Checkraise 16k @44dps --- Rabid 15k @55dps --- Awfal 13k @43dps --- Chiggen 12k @42dps --- Feen 11k @41dps --- Eoghan 11k @42dps

/GU The Statue of Rallos Zek in 309s, 448k @1450dps --- Grannock 21k @73dps --- Chuckslaw 20k @68dps --- Cutter 19k @73dps --- Tyrionn 18k @72dps --- Deetz 18k @65dps --- Muhh 17k @71dps --- Nakor 17k @62dps --- Checkraise 16k @55dps --- Rabid 16k @63dps --- Klepto 14k @47dps

heartbrand · #**114** 09-04-2015, 06:20 PM

This is from Live

/GU Dozekar the Cursed in 47s, 423k @8996dps --- Eliezzer + pets 423k @8996dps

/GU Lord Koi`Doken in 74s, 655k @8855dps --- Eliezzer + pets 655k @8855dps

/GU Lord Vyemm in 222s, 387k @1744dps --- Eliezzer 387k @1744dps

/GU Eashen of the Sky in 35s, 321k @9166dps --- Eliezzer 321k @9166dps

derpcake · #**115** 09-04-2015, 06:21 PM

i'm gonna guess this is related to mobs not dropping the proper amount of loot

wildly guess

heartbrand · #**116** 09-04-2015, 06:23 PM

Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] Lord Vyemm was hit by non-melee for 150 points of damage.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] Lord Vyemm was pierced by thorns.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] Lord Vyemm pierces YOU for 411 points of damage.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] Lord Vyemm tries to crush YOU, but YOU parry!
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] Lord Vyemm was hit by non-melee for 150 points of damage.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] Lord Vyemm was pierced by thorns.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] Lord Vyemm crushes YOU for 1017 points of damage.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] Lord Vyemm tries to pierce YOU, but YOU parry!
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] Auto attack is on.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:56 2013] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:57 2013] Hsrek tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:57 2013] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:57 2013] You cannot see your target.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:57 2013] Auto attack is off.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:57 2013] Lord Vyemm tries to pierce YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:57 2013] Lord Vyemm tries to crush YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:57 2013] Lord Vyemm tries to crush YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:57 2013] Hsrek was hit by non-melee for 150 points of damage.

[Sun Apr 28 22:08:59 2013] Lord Vyemm tries to pierce YOU, but YOU parry!
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:59 2013] Lord Vyemm tries to pierce YOU, but YOU parry!
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:59 2013] Lord Vyemm tries to crush YOU, but YOU parry!
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:59 2013] Lord Vyemm was hit by non-melee for 150 points of damage.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:59 2013] Lord Vyemm was pierced by thorns.
[Sun Apr 28 22:08:59 2013] Lord Vyemm crushes YOU for 1017 points of damage.

heartbrand · #**117** 09-04-2015, 06:29 PM

Looks like mob health may have changed at one point. For example, old allakhazam posts say Lord Koi'Doken has 100-150khp, but now he parses @ 650k something confirmed on allakahazam as recent as 2008. Maybe Vyemm was changed as well? Dunno.

Scrubosaur · #**118** 09-04-2015, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looks like mob health may have changed at one point. For example, old allakhazam posts say Lord Koi'Doken has 100-150khp, but now he parses @ 650k something confirmed on allakahazam as recent as 2008. Maybe Vyemm was changed as well? Dunno.

Maybe that is a reference for the Fabled version.

Nirgon · #**119** 09-04-2015, 09:58 PM

gj hb

Grats Rampage on p99 first Fabled Vyemm

derpcake · #**120** 09-05-2015, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looks like mob health may have changed at one point. For example, old allakhazam posts say Lord Koi'Doken has 100-150khp, but now he parses @ 650k something confirmed on allakahazam as recent as 2008. Maybe Vyemm was changed as well? Dunno.

afaik most of that stuff was retuned at some point yes

wasn't there a global health increase to NPCs to offset the power of defiant gear and focus items?