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Old 02-20-2019, 02:04 PM
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Ok, we'll see what people in game think about it.

Simplicity and intelligently are two different things. But why people think rolling at a set time is difficult is beyond me. /shrug.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:06 PM
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But why people think rolling at a set time is difficult is beyond me. /shrug.
Because we've played on this server.

I swear, I'm not a cynic, I'm an optimist (there's no way I could have invested so much time in the wiki if I wasn't) ... but I'm a realist first, and more than half a decade here has taught me that player agreements are incredibly hard to make happen, and they only ever succeed when they are dead simple.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:09 PM
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preroll is bad because it diminishes the feeling you've accomplished something by socking
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:11 PM
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But why people think rolling at a set time is difficult is beyond me. /shrug.
because this idea is wildly open ended with obvious flaws. The most obvious of them is - Person X isn't an everyday forum user shows up to camp Shady after the designated roll time. How does that conversation transpire when you say, "sorry roll was 5 hours ago" and they respond "I was at work..."
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preroll is bad because it diminishes the feeling you've accomplished something by socking
ROFL, and there's that.

Seriously though, if I could wave a magic wand that let me institute a system of my choice (but not change the spawn time; it's a shitty magic wand) I would make pre-roll the standard. My point is not that it's great to sit there for hours waiting and that I like doing it.

My point is, this is P99, and we don't have a magic wand.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:13 PM
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Roll at set time. Winner turns in. Pretty simple.

I would argue as simple as our current roll within 5 seconds. But whatever...

Hope someone Siryado's it again today. Can claim they don't agree with the current agreement.

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Person X isn't an everyday forum user shows up to camp Shady after the designated roll time. How does that conversation transpire when you say, "sorry roll was 5 hours ago" and they respond "I was at work..."
Explain to them how it works, they show up tomorrow.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:14 PM
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Roll at set time. Winner turns in. Pretty simple.

I would argue as simple as our current roll within 5 seconds. But whatever...
So I guess Ill take vacation time from work to pre-roll for something that will spawn after I would have returned home from work...

How do you not see the flaw here? It's like your kitchen's on fire and you're still taking orders
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:14 PM
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Pre roll is only good if you’re talking about marijuana ciggerettes
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:15 PM
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ROFL, and there's that.

Seriously though, if I could wave a magic wand that let me institute a system of my choice (but not change the spawn time; it's a shitty magic wand) I would make pre-roll the standard. My point is not that it's great to sit there for hours waiting and that I like doing it.

My point is, this is P99, and we don't have a magic wand.
i agree, good things simply aren't possible.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:16 PM
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i agree, good things simply aren't possible.
That's too far as well. Ultimately you just need to sew up the if/thens and the system will work.

When it spawns... roll. What is fucking easier than that? If someone decides to be a dick, how is that reflective of the system? How does pre-rolling prevent someone from clickfesting?
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