<Fresh> is changing the server!

[Rednaros]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is no such thing as two number 1 guilds

fresh had every opportunity to be the number 2 guild and try to compete for the number 1 spot once they grew

instead, they're disbanding to join a guild under the leadership of someone who has known nothing but failure and inconsistency for years

what a shame

shut the fuck up retard
you've never played on live classic era

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is no such thing as two number 1 guilds

fresh had every opportunity to be the number 2 guild and try to compete for the number 1 spot once they grew

instead, they're disbanding to join a guild under the leadership of someone who has known nothing but failure and inconsistency for years

what a shame

You know as well as I do you can't have one single guild totally dominating a red box, Colgate. There has to be competition. You guys did a great job bringing people to your guild. Server health demands there be a viable alternative.

I don't dislike Holocaust. Never did. But it's just too damned big. And the rest of the box has to work with what we have.

[Colgate]

no server has ever had two guilds of equal footing

it has never, ever happened

and it's not going to ever happen

one guild always wins and obtains a snowball effect through gear, more applicants, and a stronger, more consistent core of players

this is how every single pvp server has ever been, sorry to burst your bubble

i admire your desire for something like that; i used to have that mentality

it's just a naive mindset and you'll just disappoint yourself into either quitting or reluctantly continue playing while being very jaded/bitter(see: azrael core)

[Humerox]

I didn't say equal footing, man. I said "viable alternative". You're not bursting any bubble, bro. I know how it works, lol.

[Colgate]

a guild either dominates the server or it gets dominated

that's just how it goes

[Ashur]

Damn, I was a member of Fresh for a total of 15 minutes, I hardly knew ye!

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know as well as I do you can't have one single guild totally dominating a red box, Colgate. There has to be competition. You guys did a great job bringing people to your guild. Server health demands there be a viable alternative.

I don't dislike Holocaust. Never did. But it's just too damned big. And the rest of the box has to work with what we have.

Defiant, Ascending Dawn, and Pandemonium had 100% complete domination over their servers. There's a reason those were the only guilds to survive the zek merger. Somehow the live servers survived and flourished up until wow became big.

I agree that there has to be an alternative, the alternative generally takes scraps and tries to win skirmish pvp with the occasional attempt at the throne.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Majority rules . As a leader you should do what your guild members want . Not what you want . Have fun leveling back to 30

Ya I was blown away that when I pm'd him he wasn't interested in merging forces. Not to mention he thought a batphone wasn't necessary. Gotta be kidding me. Yall definitely need to merge for a realistic push for #2. Server doesn't need a bunch of people spread out on different tags if you guys want to make a push.

[krazyGlue]

I voted no to the merg. It's probably still going to happen . But you won't see me kicking and screaming and disbanding from azrael

[Buhbuh]

yeah, but they'll definitely see you not talking to anyone but azrael once its merged

i.e. kicking and screaming