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Old 12-09-2017, 01:45 PM
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David Brooks outlines why the bullshit story that Republicans didn't bother with this time, actually does matter:

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Compare the tax cuts of the supply-side era with the tax cuts of today. There were three big cuts in the earlier era: the 1978 capital gains tax cut, the Kemp-Roth tax cut of 1981, and the 1986 tax reform. They were passed with bipartisan support, after a lengthy legislative process. All of them responded to the dominant problem of the moment, which was the stagflation and economic sclerosis. All rested on a body of serious intellectual work.

Liberals now associate supply-side economics with the Laffer Curve, but that was peripheral. Supply-side was based on Say’s Law, that supply creates its own demand. It was based on the idea that if you rearrange incentives for small entrepreneurs you are more likely to get start-ups and more innovation. Those cuts were embraced by Nobel Prize winners and represented an entire social vision, favoring the dispersed entrepreneurs over the concentrated corporate fat cats.

Today’s tax cuts have no bipartisan support. They have no intellectual grounding, no body of supporting evidence. They do not respond to the central crisis of our time. They have no vision of the common good, except that Republican donors should get more money and Democratic donors should have less.

The rot afflicting the G.O.P. is comprehensive — moral, intellectual, political and reputational. More and more former Republicans wake up every day and realize: “I’m homeless. I’m politically homeless.”
Deniable plausibility. It was least plausible that tax cuts for the rich were to help the country in the Reagan era. Hell, even George W. pulled it off...even then there was some eye rolling.

But this Trump era shit...there's just zero pretense. "Yea were corrupt so were cutting taxes for our donors" -- everyone knows that's the story. It's not like some creeping suspicion in the back of the average voter's head, it's the official story.

Brooks article: The G.O.P. Is Rotting
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David Brooks outlines why the bullshit story that Republicans didn't bother with this time, actually does matter:



Deniable plausibility. It was least plausible that tax cuts for the rich were to help the country in the Reagan era. Hell, even George W. pulled it off...even then there was some eye rolling.

But this Trump era shit...there's just zero pretense. "Yea were corrupt so were cutting taxes for our donors" -- everyone knows that's the story. It's not like some creeping suspicion in the back of the average voter's head, it's the official story.

Brooks article: The G.O.P. Is Rotting
Taxes are theft. Cutting taxes is always a good thing. You F-ing socialist communist pigs can go F off for all I care.
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Taxes are theft. Cutting taxes is always a good thing. You F-ing socialist communist pigs can go F off for all I care.
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Taxes are theft. Cutting taxes is always a good thing. You F-ing socialist communist pigs can go F off for all I care.
Oh yea that's a great attitude to have. Let's just give away all these massive tax-funded projects like television networking, the internet, international trade, electric grids and dams. And then we can give those same motherfuckers disportionate tax breaks.

And it's all good because same day it will be our turn to get tax cuts -- right boss? NO -- it's never the middle class turn for a big tax cut. They need that money for their next big government project their going to hand out. And then that guy and going lobby away your tax cut.

So you must really enjoy getting fucked to cop and attitude like this about the tax plan.

BTW our "populist" president is a crowning example of a born elitist taking advantage of corrupt taxes in New York. He is fucking landed gentry with no intention of harming his own class.

He didn't do anything for anyone else -- but he got em their tax cuts just like he promised at the steak restaurant didn't he? Those are his people.
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David Brooks outlines why the bullshit story that Republicans didn't bother with this time, actually does matter:



Deniable plausibility. It was least plausible that tax cuts for the rich were to help the country in the Reagan era. Hell, even George W. pulled it off...even then there was some eye rolling.

But this Trump era shit...there's just zero pretense. "Yea were corrupt so were cutting taxes for our donors" -- everyone knows that's the story. It's not like some creeping suspicion in the back of the average voter's head, it's the official story.

Brooks article: The G.O.P. Is Rotting
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Oh yea that's a great attitude to have. Let's just give away all these massive tax-funded projects like television networking, the internet, international trade, electric grids and dams. And then we can give those same motherfuckers disportionate tax breaks.

And it's all good because same day it will be our turn to get tax cuts -- right boss? NO -- it's never the middle class turn for a big tax cut. They need that money for their next big government project their going to hand out. And then that guy and going lobby away your tax cut.

So you must really enjoy getting fucked to cop and attitude like this about the tax plan.

BTW our "populist" president is a crowning example of a born elitist taking advantage of corrupt taxes in New York. He is fucking landed gentry with no intention of harming his own class.

He didn't do anything for anyone else -- but he got em their tax cuts just like he promised at the steak restaurant didn't he? Those are his people.
I never said that corporate welfare is a good thing. Typical Libturd argument tactic, throw up some bogus strawman to bash when you have no other comeback. Surprised you didn't call me a racist bigot, though. Are you not feeling well?
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Old 12-10-2017, 11:08 PM
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I never said that corporate welfare is a good thing. Typical Libturd argument tactic, throw up some bogus strawman to bash when you have no other comeback. Surprised you didn't call me a racist bigot, though. Are you not feeling well?
I'm not sure how he could've possibly misconstrued your support for either version of the GOP tax bill as support for corporate welfare. Maybe it's the permanent and disproportionate cuts in corporate taxes compared to individual rates for the middle class. I guess we'll never know!

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Old 12-10-2017, 11:23 PM
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I'm not sure how he could've possibly misconstrued your support for either version of the GOP tax bill as support for corporate welfare. Maybe it's the permanent and disproportionate cuts in corporate taxes compared to individual rates for the middle class. I guess we'll never know!

God bless!
I support lower taxes, period. For corporations and for individuals. As for the current GOP proposal, I haven't looked at it and wasn't commenting on it. US politics suck and I don't waste my time worrying about what this F'd up country does any more, I just look forward to when I can leave next. Looking forward to my next vacation which is to Thailand in February.
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Looking forward to my next vacation which is to Thailand in February.
Woke. U gonna plank some ase over there or what?
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