Let's seriously just put everyone in time out.

[Webwolf]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On live if some bard or monk was frolicking merrily around the firewall in fear wiener-blocking a dracho or CT from another guild, the second guild would take their pullers, grab the rest of the zone and wipe Guild A's campground off the face of the planet. And no GM would show up or care. The planes were dangerous places, and people either played nice or policed themselves.

Yes that's exactly how I remember it. I've been calling for FTE with no GM intervention ever since I started raiding on P99.

[Salty]

lol timeout

[Diggles]

Reds have to have dunce caps on

[Dirt McGirt]

Originally Posted by aresprophet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The loss of Uthgaard really pisses me off. Xz being both a dev and a player in a top-tier raiding guild never really felt right but since I don't raid (and won't) I never cared that much. I just want classic EQ, devoid of as much bullshit as possible. The more people making that happen the better, even if it compromises the so-called "integrity" of the raiding scene -- which of course has none since it's a FFA fuckfest, and that has little to do with dev shenanigans. On live, EMarr had a raiding rotation with pickup-raid slots and everyone got along with that, no poopsocking required (my abuse of one of those pickup slots was a server legend for a while but I digress). Salty's ill-fated attempt to "hoop it" and bypass the raiding guilds is this server's best hope for a viable raiding scene, and you have know idea how ill it makes me to say that.

As a casual player all I really knew about Uthgaard was that he did not tolerate bullshit and he had over 5000 posts in this forum. If that's not commitment to the playerbase I don't know what is. His absence here will be profoundly felt.

Like Bubbles I suspect that a substantial amount of the hardcore players here are mostly pursuing the denying of others' having fun rather than their own enjoyment, and the dev response to this isn't satisfying to those of us who really just want to have fun on this server.

I don't want dev infighting, raid-guild raging, or fear of alienating a chunk of the playerbase to kill off this server. I put a lot of time into my characters here without any expectation of reward, because I play here for the sheer fun of it. I lump all my characters on to 1 account because I would never sell a one of them. I have 2 (soon to be 3) characters with maxed blacksmithing and that's a special kind of hell to go through. Don't let that go to waste over a bunch of adults who need to start acting their age.

PS Bubbles I see your necro is still using the surname I suggested like a year and a half ago, nice!

ive highlighted the parts that will be on the test

[JenJen]

instances would be cool
but then people cant brag or "be the best" however the hell you can claim that in everquest....its hardly massively skillful.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since you've screamed this in about 10 threads now, i'll just ask you this once: why is it when TMO is accused of something, they welcome any inquiry, yet whenever TR is accused of crossing a street wrong, the wagons are circled and the whole server comes crashing down?

I'm hardly a fan of TMO, or an enemy of TR. But i mean, come on now. You can't really accuse him of anything besides protecting the integrity of the server and keeping appearances 100% legit. Did he invade your private forums? Yep. Can argue tactics, but there's 0 he gains personally from it. It's far easier to understand his desire to prevent stupidity than go piecemeal through everything Xzerion has done for the past year.

Was Xzer up to something? Who really knows, who cares. It's stupid to keep up appearances and have a dev in a top tier raiding guild. It's just tailor-made for RnF fodder. The biggest tragedy is people like Nil and Co. don't get to enjoy their creation. And now add Xzer to that list.

And yes, now that Xzer has stepped down everyone will find something else to complain about. People will continue to complain as long as their is both a platform in RnF to complain about everything, until either a Red server is made so virgins can wage their holy war, or everything on p99 raid-wise is instanced so everyone can go out and get jobs and the guides and staff can actually get work done and focus on helping the people with real problems that aren't self-inflicted.

The high-end of this server is a cesspool of people who only get erections when they deprive others from pixels, who rage everytime something doesnt go their way, and are, in every sense of the word, a complete *detriment* to this project. Yeah, it's actually a project, in case some of you actually forgot. It's not your personal pixelated playground.

Oh sure, instancing isn't classic. Well neither is the silliness that happens anytime a raid target spawns on this server. On live if some bard or monk was frolicking merrily around the firewall in fear wiener-blocking a dracho or CT from another guild, the second guild would take their pullers, grab the rest of the zone and wipe Guild A's campground off the face of the planet. And no GM would show up or care. The planes were dangerous places, and people either played nice or policed themselves.. On blue servers, no less.. All the rule lawyering and GM involvement just boils down to a never ending supply of 'bluebie griefing' (tm) magically called 'classic tactics'. BS. Instance it, free up the staff to work on the project and the real playerbase, and let the uberguilds hang out in EC Tunnel and compare what "their" raid mob dropped that day. Everyone wins, except those so desperately clinging to the idea of raiding to griefand measure their E-peens.

Let's lead normal lives people. Enough of this nonsense.

Option B would be to just keep raid targets despawned for a month. The only way to make children behave is to completely take their toys away. We're down 2 people that gave their heart and soul to this project. It's been a bad week, to put it mildly.

I'm down with the business.

[Kruel]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since you've screamed this in about 10 threads now, i'll just ask you this once: why is it when TMO is accused of something, they welcome any inquiry, yet whenever TR is accused of crossing a street wrong, the wagons are circled and the whole server comes crashing down?

I'm hardly a fan of TMO, or an enemy of TR. But i mean, come on now. You can't really accuse him of anything besides protecting the integrity of the server and keeping appearances 100% legit. Did he invade your private forums? Yep. Can argue tactics, but there's 0 he gains personally from it. It's far easier to understand his desire to prevent stupidity than go piecemeal through everything Xzerion has done for the past year.

Was Xzer up to something? Who really knows, who cares. It's stupid to keep up appearances and have a dev in a top tier raiding guild. It's just tailor-made for RnF fodder. The biggest tragedy is people like Nil and Co. don't get to enjoy their creation. And now add Xzer to that list.

And yes, now that Xzer has stepped down everyone will find something else to complain about. People will continue to complain as long as their is both a platform in RnF to complain about everything, until either a Red server is made so virgins can wage their holy war, or everything on p99 raid-wise is instanced so everyone can go out and get jobs and the guides and staff can actually get work done and focus on helping the people with real problems that aren't self-inflicted.

The high-end of this server is a cesspool of people who only get erections when they deprive others from pixels, who rage everytime something doesnt go their way, and are, in every sense of the word, a complete *detriment* to this project. Yeah, it's actually a project, in case some of you actually forgot. It's not your personal pixelated playground.

Oh sure, instancing isn't classic. Well neither is the silliness that happens anytime a raid target spawns on this server. On live if some bard or monk was frolicking merrily around the firewall in fear wiener-blocking a dracho or CT from another guild, the second guild would take their pullers, grab the rest of the zone and wipe Guild A's campground off the face of the planet. And no GM would show up or care. The planes were dangerous places, and people either played nice or policed themselves.. On blue servers, no less.. All the rule lawyering and GM involvement just boils down to a never ending supply of 'bluebie griefing' (tm) magically called 'classic tactics'. BS. Instance it, free up the staff to work on the project and the real playerbase, and let the uberguilds hang out in EC Tunnel and compare what "their" raid mob dropped that day. Everyone wins, except those so desperately clinging to the idea of raiding to griefand measure their E-peens.

Let's lead normal lives people. Enough of this nonsense.

Option B would be to just keep raid targets despawned for a month. The only way to make children behave is to completely take their toys away. We're down 2 people that gave their heart and soul to this project. It's been a bad week, to put it mildly.

I agree with most of your points, well written. Without starting an arguement because that is not my intent here..IF Xzerion posted logs of TMOs private forum i would loose all respect for him. There are certain boundries and lines you wouldnt expect a person to cross while they have such a huge amount of authority. That said i agree with most of your other points.

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The high-end of this server is a cesspool of people who only get erections when they deprive others from pixels, who rage everytime something doesnt go their way, and are, in every sense of the word, a complete *detriment* to this project. Yeah, it's actually a project, in case some of you actually forgot. It's not your personal pixelated playground.

i think this was my favorite part because from my standpoint this is soooo super true. it makes me sad. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Option B would be to just keep raid targets despawned for a month. The only way to make children behave is to completely take their toys away.

i have to say. i am a fan of this idea.

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're down 2 people that gave their heart and soul to this project. It's been a bad week, to put it mildly.

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Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're down 2 people that gave their heart and soul to this project. It's been a bad week, to put it mildly.

Agreed. Uth (while not necessarily always the most popular gent on the server) was a no-nonsense no bullshit kinda guy. That's what this server needs many times.

As for Xz, I think alot of the drama with him could have been resolved simply by him stepping down from leading IB a long time ago. Hell, he could even reroll as a "new developer" now with a completely new name and no ties to TR and nobody would be any the wiser.

[Tycko]

Poopsocking a raid mob for a 3 day window every 3 days sucks.