So what did Velious bring?

[Colga]

Very competitive server. Our guild was stuck in a loop gearing people who eventually jumped ship to the elite guilds. NToV was always a bitchfest between half a dozen or more guilds. Oh the joys of open world content.

[RhodesRage1976]

Yeah so much more in Velious if you played it during its release, obviously as expansions progress there was less and less need for the expansion. But, for the time, it was loaded with amazing content, faction armor, 1,000s of quests, cool new graphics and monsters, I want to see it come to P1999, but tbh I want to level up a couple toons to 60 first, although there is plenty of content for almost all levels.

[Byrjun]

Kunark content was designed exclusively around grinding. 50-60 took much longer than 1-50 did, and then once you were 60 you sat at a cash camp and grinded that, or logged on occasionally for raids. This is evident by comparing the amount of effort and hours required for the VP key vs. the ST key.

Velious designed its content to be a lot more interesting. Not only are the raids much more involved, but there's a lot of progress a character can make that doesn't feel like such a grind. There are a lot of quests from armor to Coldain ring/shawl, SS quests, etc. It just feels like there's 10x more things to do with a level 60 character in Velious compared to Kunark, and it's designed to feel a lot less tedious.

Of course, they pretty much went back on this design philosophy in Luclin, which was designed very similarly to Kunark. VT key made VP key look like a walk in the park, AAs added endless grinding once again, and most of the high end content went back to a focus on hardcore raid content as opposed to the myriad of small questy type Velious progression that just about everyone had access to.

[RhodesRage1976]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kunark content was designed exclusively around grinding. 50-60 took much longer than 1-50 did, and then once you were 60 you sat at a cash camp and grinded that, or logged on occasionally for raids. This is evident by comparing the amount of effort and hours required for the VP key vs. the ST key.

Velious designed its content to be a lot more interesting. Not only are the raids much more involved, but there's a lot of progress a character can make that doesn't feel like such a grind. There are a lot of quests from armor to Coldain ring/shawl, SS quests, etc. It just feels like there's 10x more things to do with a level 60 character in Velious compared to Kunark, and it's designed to feel a lot less tedious.

Of course, they pretty much went back on this design philosophy in Luclin, which was designed very similarly to Kunark. VT key made VP key look like a walk in the park, AAs added endless grinding once again, and most of the high end content went back to a focus on hardcore raid content as opposed to the myriad of small questy type Velious progression that just about everyone had access to.

yup very well put

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Inb4 Ele

[coki]

What if any are the Legacy items that are soloable or small groupable for Velious?

[Cookiefist]

Velious seems less exciting when all(not all) the items come with certain stats later in the game.

Grinding is normal in EQ and at times it seems endless. So, not sure why its any different with the respect to AA's.

[BahamutDF]

True. I just love both of those weapons.

I mean what nerd doesn't want a weapon called "The Sceptre of Destruction?"

Hell, I'll take two.