1 handed vs 2 handed dmg

[Vidar]

I got a question about dmg. Lets say i have a lvl 30 sk. If i give him a 15dmg 30dly 1 handed weapon will that be roughly the same as a 20dmg 40dly 2hander? Do 2handers get a higher bonus dmg or anything? or is a 2.0 weapon a 2.0 weapon

[Lune]

The short answer is that for a lvl 30 sk the damage is close enough that it probably doesn't matter all that much and the 1h is likely a better bet because of shield.

The long answer (someone correct this if it's wrong and you know better):

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damage bonus of the weapon & frequency it gets applied will make the difference.

1hander bonus is (level -25 /3)

For the RoM it is (level - 25 / 2) for levels 1 - 50 and (level -7 / 3) for levels 51-60

The Ebon Mace will swing 3 times for every 2 times the RoM swings.

So, for your level calculate your damage bonus with each weapon. If the Ebon Mace bonus X 3 is > than RoM bonus X 2, the Mace is better DPS (ignoring ripostes, but you'll probably be fear kiting so they're a non-issue). If it ends up being really close I'd pick the mace+shield until you hit 50 and the RoM starts to proc.

Example 1:
Level 43
Ebon Mace bonus = 43-25 / 3 = 18 / 3 = 6
RoM bonus = 43 - 25 / 2 = 18 / 2 = 9

6*3 = 18
2*9 = 18

They're basically the same. RoMs ratio is a tiny bit better and will win in DPS but the bonus you get from having a shield probably outshines the increase in DPS.

Example 2:
Level 55
Ebon mace bonus = 55 - 25 /3 = 30 / 3 = 10
RoM bonus = = 55 - 7 / 3 = 48 / 3 = 16

10*3 = 30
16*2 = 32

RoM has now pulled ahead a bit more and started to proc. The proc most likely makes up for the lack of a shield at this point.

Link to thread where I asked the same question as you

[bum3]

Always thought it was a general rule that pre 30 1h+shield. post 30 if you can duel wield do it. if you can't duel wield, 2h(keep a 1h and shield for tough fights). But this logic is using the 2h buffs live did in velious, which I don't know if it is applied here. I think one buff was velious release and another towards end of velious. 2h damage bonus being 2-4x 1h dmg bonus depending on delay of 2h.

But when looking at cost of weapons on p99. Per dmg output, 1h sk weps are cheaper than comparable 2h wep prices. IE Ebon mace being 4k and RoM being 20k. That 16k extra spent on equipment would clearly increase damage output of ebon mace above RoM. Unless your pocket is endless.

[Crevex]

Originally Posted by bum3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IE Ebon mace being 4k and RoM being 20k.

what is this RoM you speak of?

[gildor]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Rod_of_Mourning

Price inflated because it no longer drops.

[Brut]

Thought the delay dmg bonus doesn't exist on p99?
Not classic n all dat.

Personally always felt like 1handers outperform 2handers easily.

[xKoopa]

1h definitely wins by a landslide. 2h hits so unreliable, better off machine gunning faster attacks

Late velious patch may change this

[Dolalin]

1h definitely wins by a landslide. 2h hits so unreliable, better off machine gunning faster attacks

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by xKoopa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1h definitely wins by a landslide. 2h hits so unreliable, better off machine gunning faster attacks

Late velious patch may change this

I just had this discussion elsewhere on the forums--is there some hidden thing about 2H'ers that I'm unaware of?

Do they have a higher chance to miss or something? If not then what is unreliable about them? If you have a ~20% chance to miss with your 2h you'll miss ~20% of your 1h'er attacks, given equivalent ratios, 2h should win by default then since dual-wielding only occurs ~70% of the time, no?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just had this discussion elsewhere on the forums--is there some hidden thing about 2H'ers that I'm unaware of?

Do they have a higher chance to miss or something? If not then what is unreliable about them? If you have a ~20% chance to miss with your 2h you'll miss ~20% of your 1h'er attacks, given equivalent ratios, 2h should win by default then since dual-wielding only occurs ~70% of the time, no?

2her has a larger damage variance, so dps is less consistent from fight to fight. in the end it averages out over time in normal xp groups, but you will see wide swings from mob to mob on short fights. also 2h do poorly on high AC mobs liek in velious because so many hits land at or near minimum dmg ^^


this is the current situation. The upcoming 2h bonus increase and monk triple atk will alter that.