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Policy Discussion: Spelling Out GM Procedure & Making Everyone's Lives Easier
Introduction
While the staff normally does an excellent job managing the server, there are certain areas where the processes are chaotic and inefficient. This leads to frustration, confusion, and extra work for everyone involved. The following is a short proposal that the staff adopt formal procedures for submitting, resolving, and appealing raid disputes: Why change things? Currently, raid petitions are handled reasonably adequately as a whole, but there is a large amount of detritus for the staff to sort through, and formal procedures will help reduce the workload to a manageable level. So, why adopt formal dispute resolution procedures? 1) Established policies will allow the creation of public and documented precedent. 2) Forcing summaries and word limits onto petitions will make the review process far more efficient. By allowing additional argument & explanation at GM discretion, injustice can be avoided so that the decision makers are fully appraised of the situation. 3) An official system puts proper channels into place so that the GM staff and the players know exactly where each other sits. There are no back channels to go through or deals to make. Appeals, arguments, and defenses are all fully public, concise, and officially submitted. Any requests to deviate can simply be met with "follow the procedure" as opposed to the current system of "send me a PM, and I'll get to it at some point." 4) The public nature of such a system will prevent the spread and abuse of misinformation that frequently surrounds raid disputes. Quote:
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Juntsie appreciate dis well-reasoned, procedural suggestion. No dispute that it would work real gud, but it suffer from one big problem:
Not classic. Project 1999 raid disputes should not require legal briefing, appeals, and procedural formats. Game about bashing stuff and getting pixel to impress female, not legal briefing. Dis is Everquest not Litigationquest. Some folk, like Juntsie, specialize in professional service, but it should not be imposed on all. Dere was no formal process in classic. GM got better tings to do den conduct administrative review of complaint. They have to make boxer run in big circle, dey have to help newbie who fall thru world, dey have to enforce the platinum standard, etc. Yet, even bigger problem exist becuz system would be unbalanced. GM would be absolutely staggered if Juntsie submitted petition on behalf of guild or submit amicus brief in support of raid guild he like. Whole raid game would devolve into who retain Juntsie first, cuz they would surely win dispute. Dis not in interest of justice.
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Last edited by Juntsie; 08-15-2014 at 05:33 PM..
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I think the GMs have addressed being against this sort of thing due to how every situation is different and would just cause arguments over disputes to just go on forever.
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TLDR
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LawyerQuesting hard
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This changes nothing in the substance of what the GMs say or do. This only influences how they communicate their rulings to the players. Quote:
Alternative dispute resolution, while I agree it is imminently favorable, is not always a realistic option. Especially here. When ADR fails, these procedures reduce the headache and communicative bloat the petition process currently faces. Quote:
These procedures provide quick and efficient closure for all parties in a thorough and public manner which is certainly in the interest of justice.
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first sentence of point 2 re this thread
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2) The staff hates getting a petition that's 20 pages long and written by a 5 year old. 3) Spelling out exactly HOW to submit a complain/defense makes it easier, faster, fairer, and more efficient for everyone.
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Xasten <The Mystical Order>
Frieza <Stasis> 1999-2003 Prexus "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." JOHN 14:6 | |||
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Fireza have no evidence dat procedure above is classic. It not classic. Juntsie move to dismiss cuz no evidence that classic and that element of essential ting on server. Dis simple, direct argument should win, cuz "not classic" argument win most of time. It should win here, too, cuz game Everquest and not LitigationQuest.
Game about bash for fun and get pixel for female attention. Raid dispute should not change nature of game wit giant formal procedure dat cause headache. Juntsie no like dat raid dispute happen, but no excuse for LitigationQuest. Beside, as shown above, dis proposal unbalanced, cuz Juntsie would effectively have power to cause any party to win raid dispute, regardless of merits.
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Juntsie Grobbstein (Green) Juntsie Professional & Shaman Services, LLC Licensed Troll Professional (J.D., M.D., Th.D., R.D., R.C.C., Ph.D., C.P.A., L.S.L.P) Known Associates: Oakenhops Valebrewer (51 Druid <Dial a Port>); Korezril (50 Monk <Ancient Blood>) ; Xeirella L'Veldriss (52 Necro) Professional troll services fer gud rates, including da raid dispute resolution. Dis message confidential and not intended for tax purpose. Protect swamp. Tink green before print. | ||
Last edited by Juntsie; 08-15-2014 at 05:43 PM..
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