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Old 07-27-2013, 10:25 PM
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Anyone know when the server might be back up?
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:29 PM
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Probably when it's ready.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:36 PM
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:36 PM
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ah bollocks. Oh well.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:36 PM
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drive array is busted he will need a new array not just the one or two disks and then it has to be copied over

days , most likely 3-5
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:38 PM
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I really think its amazing that two separate entire drive arrays on two separate boxes broke at the same time. That's some really ineradicable odds.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:43 PM
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drive array is busted he will need a new array not just the one or two disks and then it has to be copied over

days , most likely 3-5
I've done raid setups and clones b4, hours at most. Probably 40 mins on good modern hardware. And not ancient 7200 rpm drives

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I really think its amazing that two separate entire drive arrays on two separate boxes broke at the same time. That's some really ineradicable odds.
I wouldn't be surprised if red went down to fix blue.

If boxes were hosted on rented hardware, would have been fixed in minutes. A complete failure would have been avoided. It takes 3 drives to go bad in a raid 5, before things start getting ugly. The people hosting the hardware would have thrown drives in it.

These are Basement Dweller Servers though. Lets not deceive ourselves.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:46 PM
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I really think its amazing that two separate entire drive arrays on two separate boxes broke at the same time. That's some really ineradicable odds.
That's not what happened. There were two drivers on the same array. If you lose two drivers on lets say a raid 5 array you volume is toast. It is unusual to have two drive failures on an array in such a short period of time which makes me wonder if the first hard driver failure occurred some time ago but wasn't detected (you can operate with one failed drive but take a performance hit) until the second one failed which brought the volume offline. This is why you always replace a failed hard drive ASAP.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:51 PM
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I've done raid setups and clones b4, hours at most. Probably 40 mins on good modern hardware. And not ancient 7200 rpm drives



I wouldn't be surprised if red went down to fix blue.

If boxes were hosted on rented hardware, would have been fixed in minutes. A complete failure would have been avoided. It takes 3 drives to go bad in a raid 5, before things start getting ugly. The people hosting the hardware would have thrown drives in it.

These are Basement Dweller Servers though. Lets not deceive ourselves.
It sounds like they have some servers in a locker at an ISP.

Two drivers in a raid 5 will bring it down, not three. Which is why you always replace a failed hard drive asap.
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That's not what happened. There were two drivers on the same array. If you lose two drivers on lets say a raid 5 array you volume is toast. It is unusual to have two drive failures on an array in such a short period of time which makes me wonder if the first hard driver failure occurred some time ago but wasn't detected (you can operate with one failed drive but take a performance hit) until the second one failed which brought the volume offline. This is why you always replace a failed hard drive ASAP.
Two separate boxes. Raid 5 can degrade to a lower raid with less performance backup 1 drive to a 2ncd.

The odds are pretty astronomical on two separate servers that both would degrade to a critical level where a failure would mean data loss and they'd need to both be brought down and fixed for integrity.

Unless they were already failing like you stated. But both already failing is really bad from a sys admin perspective. Shit needs fixed when it goes bad.

If things were setup right there'd be a drive in a box ready to get slid into a tray and hot plugged right on.

Days is a dumbass estimate unless u have to build an entirely new array and wait on hardware. Even rebuilding an array from one working drive doesn't take very long. Its pretty much text file edit and hardware swapping. If the OS and raidsetup is already done. You just set the working drive to be the master and plug it into the new array and bamb. Nothing special needs be done.
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