Freedom From Atheism Foundation

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by r00t [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

police stations can't even have christmas trees and you act like atheists are persecuted

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

police are a public service and in order to have a christmas tree, all rituals of that time or similar manner, regardless of calendar, would have to be honored.

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The episteme is the ‘apparatus’ which makes possible the separation, not of the true from the false, but of what may from what may not be characterised as scientific.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episteme

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Big on privileged are we. You should feel so privileged to live in western nation traditionally identified with Christianity that puts up with minority atheist bullshit. You relish twisting a nations laws to allow room for your lack of belief even so far as demanding others not participate so as not to offend your sensibilities. Last time I checked people stopped forcing conversion at the end of a sword hundreds of years ago (westerners) so who exactly is forcing you to deal with all of this? Oh noez you heard a Christmas jingle. Oh noez you got to take off work for a holiday you dont believe in? Heavens no you mean strangers gave you gifts out of the kindness of their hearts? Take that pariah complex somewhere else. Atheist like other special interest groups don't actually want equality they want special privileges and to be seen as dominant.

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Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so much talk of logic without it being mentioned that logic is the rule of non contradiction within rhetoric. rhetoric is a method of persuasion that uses logical arguments in order to establish an authority over the convinced. you're all wanting that power of authority like good god seekers.

making more sense now?

[r00t]

atheist try to make things like pot smoking into a religion

[Shamalam]

Aww, don't give up now r00t. You were making such cogent arguments earlier!

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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making more sense now?

Great now you are trying to contradict me with your own contradiction. Yeah look we get it in between poop socking and posting tranny porn you took some community college philosophy courses. Can you actually stick to the debate or are you going to continue this semantic circle jerk?

Point is no one is forcing anyone to adopt religion but on the other hand a concerted effort is being made to strip people of religious freedom. See the contradiction there? The victims have become the aggressors. No different than the LGBT crap.

Freedom of religion is the choice to believe or not and not have your head cut off for it or be thrown in jail. It doesn't mean you need to drag people into court for wearing a cross pin at the DMV. Modern atheist wont be happy til religion is no longer allowed which is the antithesis of religious freedom.

[r00t]

yea the first amendment nowhere states there is a separation of church and state. that is 21st century atheist propaganda the founding fathers hate, forcing their tyranny on us

[Daldolma]

i like when atheists argue against respecting the democratic process and then complain about other people forcing things on them

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by Shamalam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Congratulations, you've joined the legions of mongoloids that have no idea how evolution actually works and are too lazy/ignorant/stubborn to read about it for ten minutes. Ten minutes. That's all it takes for anyone with an IQ above that of a doormat to realize that a simple process, over billions of years, can result in these incredibly complex systems that our human brains (which are also the result of these systems...) cannot yet fully comprehend. There are literally mountains of evidence in support of evolution, and no evidence against it. That is how scientific theories work. Try to follow along.

lol, A + B got to C so it must = X. GG lmao, lots of evidence there.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great now you are trying to contradict me with your own contradiction. Yeah look we get it in between poop socking and posting tranny porn you took some community college philosophy courses. Can you actually stick to the debate or are you going to continue this semantic circle jerk?

Point is no one is forcing anyone to adopt religion but on the other hand a concerted effort is being made to strip people of religious freedom. See the contradiction there? The victims have become the aggressors. No different than the LGBT crap.

Freedom of religion is the choice to believe or not and not have your head cut off for it or be thrown in jail. It doesn't mean you need to drag people into court for wearing a cross pin at the DMV. Modern atheist wont be happy til religion is no longer allowed which is the antithesis of religious freedom.

you're not ignoring the sentence about seeking power are you? the overarching point is that religion doesn't operate like it used to in current secularized societies, but the behaviors of people haven't changed, especially with centralized foci being used to generate debate in a public forum. my critique is that the atheists that argue what your stating are no different than the believers that also display dominance seeking behavior. women have authority over men in current society so i have to quote timothy here:

11) A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12) I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

another note:
strict interpretation of the constitution would have everyone who owns a gun in well regulated militias that would be regulated by the federal gov in today's day and age due to the funding that would be needed in order for states to have their well regulated militias. to the point of religions, gov agencies cannot favor one religion over another in terms rituals or symbols (like the christmas tree), but a loop hole was found with the usage of private money being used to have displays put up on public/gov buildings (the baphomet statue in oklahoma) which didn't appease those seeking christian statues.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Lron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. Just....no.

That is false analogy and a logical fallacy.

Evolution as an analogy of the alphabet provides evidence for every ascending letter and how A became B, how B became C how C became B so on and so forth all the way up to "X".

If there was no good reason and no evidence to support M turning into N then the scientific theory would be picked apart by other scientists in the field and either scrapped completely or left sitting at that crossroad. It would never become a scientific theory.

Not actually. Actually the evidence for evolution goes something like.
A..D.....J...N....S...WXYZ. Ignore the missing letters, we will fill that in with best guesses and hypothesis. Don't get all angry over any actual missing evidence of letters, we are very confident that we will find evidence for those letters at some point in the future. In the mean time here is my theory on how A became B and led to D. It's very simple if you forget any actual science.