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Old 06-29-2017, 08:29 AM
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I'm returning to the game after 2+ years off and I want to have a crack at necro this time.
I'm not really sure how things work post Velious so I need very quick advice.

In a post-Velious world, is the gap between Iksar and DE still great? I have a 14 DE who I love so I was wondering if it is worth starting him over again as ikky due to regen, or if 50ish+ necros really notice the difference all that much?
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:41 AM
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Pretty sure the consensus is: play what you enjoy but really, play iksar. Sitting down its 11 regen per tick more for iksar. That's an entire 10th ring clicky[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure how Velious would change things.
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:01 AM
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For a necro, change the name from regen to flowing thought...

Because that's what it is for a iksar necro, now does it sound remotely close in comparison to a DE necro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ?
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Old 06-29-2017, 12:38 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of iksar models but for the necro class iksar is way better than any alternative. At 58 in lich I lose 5hp a tick sitting. At 60 with arch lich I'll lose 1 hp/tick sitting. With Demi lich I'll lose 30 a tick sitting.

A non-iksar will lose 15 a tick lich at 58 and 13 a tick sitting at 60 with arch lich. Demi non-iksar will lose 41 a tick sitting.

The difference was noticeable but not game changing until 51+ when racial regen really takes off. Any race of necro can be successful but the regen bonus of iksar completely eclipses the xp penalty and fashionquest fail of sporting a tail. You can always tap back the regen difference but lifetaps or lifetap dots are horribly inefficient. Solo this is huge. Grouping where good necros heal ... it's enormously different.

I do not regret making a human monk. I would regret making a non-iksar necro.
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Old 06-29-2017, 01:27 PM
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Go iksar. You'll get over the iksar model at 34+ when you spend most of your time as a skeleton anyway. I mean as a caster you wear a robe most of the time, which basically looks the same on every race.
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:45 PM
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Iksar necros are the best except at the thing that matters most: looking slick in the EC tunnel.
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:10 PM
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If I hadn't made a necro at launch I would have made an iksar necro when kunark came out. Iksar is worth it.
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:22 PM
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Here's some math to help you decide. The HP to mana ratio for Arch Lich is 0.646. An Iksar sitting gets 12 hp a tick, or 2 per second, which translates to 1.292 mana per second.

Devouring Darkness costs 400 mana. In 310 seconds, or about every 5 minutes, an Iksar gets to cast an extra Devouring Darkness. If you can live knowing that you will be able to cast one less Devouring Darkness every five minutes as a dark elf, you absolutely should keep your current character; otherwise reroll.
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:46 PM
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Iksars can't equip http://wiki.project1999.com/Hate_Crystal , something to consider. If you are enjoying necro as a non iksar race thats completely fine. Regen is good but vexing mordinia heals you a lot, and it's not as if iksars cast more powerful spells.
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:59 PM
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Pre-Kunark, Dark Elf or Erudite or Gnome
Kunark+, Iksar

The Iksar 20% exp penalty is not as bad as one would think.
The Iksar Racial Regen is invaluable when combined with lich spells.
Level 50+ You'll wish you went iksar if you don't.

If you plan to Raid,.. loot items won't really matter all that much because your job will be to twitch clerics and that's generally about it. So chances are you don't need to have BIS every slot. That's a fools errand on a necro or mage imho.
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