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watch the last few episodes again, knowing what you know now, and notice how pampered he is .. it could have only ended this way.
readers saw and loved that aspect because we knew. oh yes, we knew.
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the whole story is COMPLETELY different the second time you read it,
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i wasnt a huge Robb fan. he was never a PoV character and he was always fucking up. he was young and naive and he still believed he would win the war simply by winning these small battles. He broke his oath to Walder. He allowed a woman to free the kingslayer in exchange for nothing. He sent Theon back to Pyke. He allied with Renly over Stannis. He straight up lost Winterfell. He lobbed off Lord Karstarks head, costing him those men, and turning Roose against Robb. am i forgetting anything? Moving on to postBook5 stuff, im still thinking Victarion and Dany are going to team up (allys, or married, dunno) and be a dangerous fucking pair to deal with. the guy has 90+ ships at the moment, and hes at Slavers Bay. meanwhile in westeros, Stannis VS Freys & Manderlys (unless the manderlys turn on the freys as expected.) and im pretty sure that the karstark men are planning to murderfuck Stannis and co. as well
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Yea, I think I'm going to re-read starting from Book 1. I have a lot of travel coming up and flights/airports/hotels at cities I don't live in for business are great times to read. The Red Wedding episode really made me remember how good the story and book details are, time to relive it all.
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In the end I see only bad things coming to the Frey's... Roose I actually really like his character in the show.. I don't remember if I liked him in the books honestly. I guess they haven't shown him do anything too fucked up(well other then the whole red wedding thing) but honestly Robb was a dumbass... he won every battle but lost the war and pretty much just get the Stark Banner men slaughtered... everyone else had left by then.
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well, Roose did father that sick fuck bastard of his. Plus, his house sigil is the flayed man and I'm not sure he's very against torture.
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I didnt like roose in the books, but I did like him in the show...go figure.
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dany will kill victarion if he keeps to the old ways
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Well are we really upset at what his kid did to Theon? I mean really.... and I understand his house sigil is the flayed man... but did he come up with that as his house sigil? I think not.
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