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Old 11-21-2015, 10:20 AM
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Default Gnarled Staff - Drop Rate

I'm posting this in beta, because I believe this is a change made during the epic patch time (either March when VSR was split off or April when VS is changed from 7 -> 3 day respawn), when they made a lot of the epics more accessible.

Essentially, around this time, the Gnarled Staff becomes a lot more common:

EQClerics 2001

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Unless I missed something, Venril Sathir does NOT drop the Staff every time. It's common (in the neighborhood of 3 Staves per 4 kills) but you are NOT guaranteed to get it.

VS is one of the FEW mobs that is on a strict Rotation on my Server. Every 2 or 3 months, your turn comes up and you kill him.
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No this is not the hardest part, the hardest part is phinny who drops his staff about once every 15 kills, as oposed to VS who drops it fairly regularly. Least thats been my expierence. My 2cp
My logs from EQMac (2002/2003 era):

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[Mon Dec 03 20:12:31 2012] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Mon Dec 03 20:12:43 2012] --You have looted a Diamond Encrusted Staff.--
[Mon Dec 03 20:12:44 2012] --You have looted a Elder Spiritist's Greaves.--

[Thu Dec 13 19:51:32 2012] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Thu Dec 13 19:51:37 2012] --You have looted a Wild Lord's Trousers.--
[Thu Dec 13 19:51:39 2012] --You have looted a Diamond Encrusted Staff.--
[Thu Dec 13 19:51:41 2012] --You have looted a Gnarled Staff.--

[Sun Dec 16 03:30:30 2012] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sun Dec 16 03:30:38 2012] --You have looted a Wild Lord's Trousers.--
[Sun Dec 16 03:30:39 2012] --You have looted a Nightshade Scented Staff.--
[Sun Dec 16 03:30:48 2012] --Landan has looted a Gnarled Staff.--

[Tue Jan 01 12:41:25 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Tue Jan 01 12:41:29 2013] --You have looted a Singing Steel Greaves.--
[Tue Jan 01 12:41:30 2013] --You have looted a Lycanthropic Staff.--
[Tue Jan 01 12:41:31 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Bedlam.--

[Wed Jan 09 12:50:21 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Wed Jan 09 12:50:26 2013] --You have looted a Mrylokar's Greaves.--
[Wed Jan 09 12:50:27 2013] --You have looted a Shissar Nullifier Staff.--
[Wed Jan 09 12:50:27 2013] You cannot loot this Lore Item. You already have one.

[Sat Jan 12 12:45:45 2013] Venril Sathir has been slain by Dimitre!
[Sat Jan 12 12:47:18 2013] --Dimitre has looted a Gnarled Staff.--
[Sat Jan 12 12:47:25 2013] --Busta has looted a Donal's Leggings of Mourning.--
[Sat Jan 12 12:47:32 2013] --You have looted a Diamond Encrusted Staff.--
[Sat Jan 12 12:47:33 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Exile Undead.--

[Thu Feb 14 21:16:45 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
*[Thu Feb 14 21:17:07 2013] Darchon tells the group, 'Elder Spiritist's Greaves - Ancient Shissar Gauntlet - Gnarled Staff'
[Thu Feb 14 21:19:50 2013] --Gloiin has looted a Elder Spiritist's Greaves.--
[Thu Feb 14 21:24:31 2013] --You have looted a Ancient Shissar Gauntlet.--

[Sun Feb 24 02:29:59 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sun Feb 24 02:30:06 2013] --You have looted a Lycanthropic Staff.--
[Sun Feb 24 02:30:07 2013] --You have looted a Deepwater Greaves.--
[Sun Feb 24 02:30:08 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Forlorn Deeds.--
[Sun Feb 24 02:43:55 2013] --Beimeith has looted a Gnarled Staff.--

[Thu Mar 07 18:41:08 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Thu Mar 07 18:41:14 2013] --You have looted a Diamond Encrusted Staff.--
[Thu Mar 07 18:41:15 2013] --You have looted a Blood Ember Greaves.--
***[Thu Mar 07 18:42:10 2013] Darchon tells the guild, 'no gnarled staff, which is surprising'

[Sun Mar 10 18:49:52 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sun Mar 10 18:49:57 2013] --You have looted a Deepwater Greaves.--
[Sun Mar 10 18:49:57 2013] --You have looted a Diamond Encrusted Staff.--
[Sun Mar 10 18:50:00 2013] --You have looted a Gnarled Staff.--

[Mon Apr 22 14:04:06 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Mon Apr 22 14:04:11 2013] --You have looted a Deepwater Greaves.--
[Mon Apr 22 14:04:12 2013] --You have looted a Nightshade Scented Staff.--
*[Mon Apr 22 14:04:19 2013] You say out of character, 'rots Gnarled Staff'

[Wed Apr 24 17:54:22 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Wed Apr 24 17:54:32 2013] --You have looted a Elder Spiritist's Greaves.--
[Wed Apr 24 17:54:39 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Bandoleer of Luclin.--
*[Wed Apr 24 17:54:44 2013] You say out of character, 'Gnarled Staff - Waters of Impenetrable Aura - Elder Spiritist's Greaves'
*[Wed Apr 24 17:54:48 2013] You say out of character, 'staves are rotting'

[Fri Apr 26 10:33:03 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Fri Apr 26 10:33:07 2013] --You have looted a Elder Spiritist's Greaves.--
[Fri Apr 26 10:33:08 2013] --You have looted a Shissar Guardian Staff.--

[Mon Apr 29 01:03:16 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Mon Apr 29 01:03:44 2013] --You have looted a Wild Lord's Trousers.--
[Mon Apr 29 01:03:44 2013] --You have looted a Shissar Nullifier Staff.--
[Mon Apr 29 01:03:48 2013] You cannot loot this Lore Item. You already have one.
*[Mon Apr 29 01:04:04 2013] Landan tells alliance:1, 'Gnarled Staff rot 29min, FCFS'

[Sun May 19 10:38:05 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sun May 19 10:38:10 2013] --You have looted a Jaundiced Bone Greaves.--
[Sun May 19 10:38:10 2013] --You have looted a Waters of Impenetrable Aura.--

[Sun May 26 20:10:04 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sun May 26 20:10:09 2013] --You have looted a Donal's Leggings of Mourning.--
[Sun May 26 20:10:10 2013] --You have looted a Shissar Nullifier Staff.--
*[Sun May 26 20:10:27 2013] You say to your guild, 'rots Gnarled Staff'

[Mon Jul 08 19:12:36 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Mon Jul 08 19:12:59 2013] --Landan has looted a Singing Steel Greaves.--

[Sat Jul 20 12:06:00 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Sat Jul 20 12:06:05 2013] --You have looted a Elder Spiritist's Greaves.--
[Sat Jul 20 12:06:06 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Frost.--
[Sat Jul 20 12:06:08 2013] --You have looted a Shissar Guardian Staff.--

[Fri Aug 30 16:29:02 2013] You have slain Venril Sathir!
[Fri Aug 30 16:29:12 2013] --You have looted a Wild Lord's Trousers.--
[Fri Aug 30 16:29:12 2013] --You have looted a Spell: Vocarate: Water.--
*[Fri Aug 30 16:29:25 2013] You say to your guild, 'Ancient Shissar Gauntlet - Gnarled Staff rotting FCFS im logging otu for awhile later'
11/18 and I think I may have neglected to mention 2 or 3 rotted. I even comment there that it was unusual for VS to not drop the staff (I had thought it was 100% drop rate up til then).

+ All the 2001 quotes from Allakhazam complain about the Blue Crystal Staff being rare, not the Gnarled Staff.

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Old 11-21-2015, 10:47 AM
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Here people had BCS stocked piled for years before epics came out too.
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Old 11-21-2015, 10:55 AM
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Is this change not implemented? I believe 2/3 of VS's killed since the March patch was turned on have had a staff. Pretty small sample size, obviously, but about what you'd expect. I assumed it had gone live.
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Old 11-21-2015, 02:10 PM
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More like 1/3 and uncommon iirc
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Old 11-21-2015, 04:32 PM
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More like 1/3 and uncommon iirc
Before the epic revamps? Or do you remember the drop rate being that bad after epic revamps?
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Old 11-21-2015, 08:13 PM
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Was more like 4/5 irc
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Old 11-22-2015, 09:37 PM
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Did today's VS drop a staff? If he did, I'd say that points to a much improved drop rate! (Though again, small sample size...)
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Old 11-22-2015, 09:45 PM
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0 Staff today
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Old 11-23-2015, 11:23 AM
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Hmm, not what I was hoping to hear.
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Old 11-27-2015, 06:26 PM
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Yeah it is not classic right now and needs a fix.

The post-revamp drop rate skyrocketed.

BCS has always been rarer post-revamp. VS had a much higher staff chance when his spawn timer was reduced as part of the Wizard epic revamps.

Need a dev to look into this, Allakhazam also has comments indicating as much.
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