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Old 04-24-2024, 01:30 PM
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Talking Is Shaman the BEST all-around class in the game?

Some YouTube comment said Shaman is 2nd best at EVERYTHING and also a good starter class.

He argued Shaman could do almost everything an enchanter could do among other things, providing buffs to allies and himself and tank damage, wear heavy armor as Barbarian. What's there to hate? Do you agree?
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Old 04-24-2024, 02:19 PM
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they're not even close to enchanter save for a few niche things like +6 dragons
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Old 04-24-2024, 04:00 PM
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Enchanters and Shamans are the two best solo-challenge classes on P99, assuming they are fully built. Their kits are very well rounded, which is why they can do more content than other classes.

Enchanters are better than Shamans whenever there are viable mobs to charm.

Shamans are better than Enchanters whenever charming isn't viable, and mobs are slowable. Shamans also have some overlap with content Enchanters can do. Shamans may not be as good at it, but it's still doable.

On P99 there is more content suited for Enchanters than Shamans on the Server's timeline. This is why Enchanters tend to be the best "all-around" class, and Shamans end up coming in second.

Obviously some content is better suited for specific classes that aren't Shaman or Enchanter, but the idea of an "all-around" class is they can do more desirable content than other classes. Bards can kill 25 trash mobs faster than Shamans or Enchanters via kiting. The end result of that kind of play is limited to power leveling for money, and most people think of an "all-around" class as one that can camp the most desirable items. Enchanter wins in this regard.
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Old 04-24-2024, 08:58 PM
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They’re a contender as long as they choose racial regen …
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Old 04-24-2024, 09:57 PM
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Some YouTube comment said Shaman is 2nd best at EVERYTHING and also a good starter class.

He argued Shaman could do almost everything an enchanter could do among other things, providing buffs to allies and himself and tank damage, wear heavy armor as Barbarian. What's there to hate? Do you agree?
It sounds like you want to min-max. If that’s the case, why not pick Ogre for high stamina and frontal stun immunity; Troll for hp regen and high stamina; or Iksar for regen, AC bonus, and convenient Medium size?

Faction issues are mostly irrelevant since you’ll be slaying all the frogs in Sebilis anyway (or all the Whatevers on WhateverTown), so choosing Barbarian doesn’t give you anything that compares with the above. There are many threads about this already, so feel free to read through them for further information and opinions.
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Old 04-24-2024, 10:46 PM
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if you're in it for the long haul and you know it, a cleric with puppet strings trumps both classes, enjoy
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Old 04-25-2024, 12:21 AM
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They’re a contender as long as they choose racial regen …
Troxx is trying to bloat another thread by derailing it into a different discussion. He isn't responding in good faith, and he isn't being serious. You can ignore him.

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if you're in it for the long haul and you know it, a cleric with puppet strings trumps both classes, enjoy
While you are correct a Cleric with Puppet Strings can do some amazing things, you are looking at a 60-80k initial investment with a 20k recharge cost per 10 clicks. 30-40k initial investment if you have someone you can trust to help you recharge. Depending on that player's availability, you may not be able to recharge as often if you go down this route.

It is much more expensive than playing a fully geared Shaman or Enchanter when looking at how often you'd need to recharge puppet strings. 20k every 10 camp attempts at best, assuming you never fail or need to click it multiple times in a fight. Shamans and Enchanters have a higher initial investment, but you are going to be spending a lot more platinum over time than either class.
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Old 04-25-2024, 12:30 AM
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still having problems with reading comprehension i see, keep workin at it man
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Old 04-25-2024, 12:38 AM
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still having problems with reading comprehension i see, keep workin at it man
Please stop posting nonsense. If you want to clarify your point, please do that instead. As it stands, your current post misses the big caveat of how much platinum you need to spend on puppet strings as a Cleric. Sadly they are no longer cheap to recharge.
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Old 04-25-2024, 12:52 AM
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what a neet, lawl
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