Game Mechanics: T-staff proc in PvP

[Dullah]

Ya, doesn't matter that I said this months ago.

No reason for 12 second stuns to have full duration when every other affect is shortened in pvp.

[Cwall 52.0]

shit's lasting longer than that

fresh from today's pvp:

[Sun Mar 03 11:49:33 2013] You are stunned!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:33 2013] You begin to spin from one hundred blows..  You have taken 80 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:33 2013] Nizzar tries to crush YOU, but YOU block!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:33 2013] Nizzar tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:33 2013] Kebartik convulses.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:33 2013] Venomous notes seep through your body..
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:33 2013] Gream convulses.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:33 2013] Node convulses.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:34 2013] Elderan tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:34 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:34 2013] Ender pierces YOU for 64 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:34 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:34 2013] Ender slashes YOU for 42 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:34 2013] You have been disarmed!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:35 2013] Elderan pierces YOU for 39 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:35 2013] Elderan tries to slash YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:35 2013] Elderan tries to slash YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:35 2013] Nizzar crushes YOU for 120 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:35 2013] Nizzar crushes YOU for 95 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:35 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:35 2013] Ender slashes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:36 2013] Kebartik says 'Sorry, Master..calming down.'
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:36 2013] Elderan begins to spin from one hundred blows.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:36 2013] Wanyo tries to crush Elderan, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:36 2013] Wanyo crushes Elderan for 68 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:36 2013] Wanyo was burned.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:36 2013] Gream tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:36 2013] Gream slashes YOU for 32 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:36 2013] Gream slashes YOU for 17 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:36 2013] Nizzar kicks YOU for 58 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:37 2013] Nizzar tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:37 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:37 2013] Ender slashes YOU for 12 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:37 2013] Ender tries to slash YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:37 2013] Kebartik slashes YOU for 26 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:37 2013] Kebartik tries to slash YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:37 2013] Kebartik tries to slash YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:37 2013] Kebartik tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:38 2013] Gream tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:38 2013] Gream pierces YOU for 45 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:38 2013] Gream tries to slash YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:38 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but YOU block!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:38 2013] Ender pierces YOU for 73 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:38 2013] Ender tries to slash YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:38 2013] Nizzar tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:39 2013] You are thirsty.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:39 2013] You are hungry.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:39 2013] You are out of food and drink.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:39 2013] You resist the EarthElementalStrike spell!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:39 2013] Wanyo tries to kick Elderan, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:39 2013] Ender pierces YOU for 51 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:39 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but YOU block!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:39 2013] Ender tries to slash YOU, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:39 2013] You feel protected.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:40 2013] Firebowlt begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:40 2013] Gream tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:40 2013] Solsek begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:40 2013] Nizzar tries to crush YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:40 2013] Kebartik tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:40 2013] Kebartik tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:40 2013] Kebartik tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:40 2013] Kebartik tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:41 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:41 2013] Ender tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:41 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:41 2013] You slow down.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:41 2013] Wanyo's spell fizzles!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:42 2013] Firebowlt regains concentration and continues casting.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:42 2013] Gream tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:42 2013] Gream tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:42 2013] Nizzar tries to crush YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:42 2013] Nizzar tries to crush YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:42 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:42 2013] Ender tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:42 2013] Ender tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:43 2013] Node begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:43 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:43 2013] Nizzar tries to crush Wanyo, but Wanyo is INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:43 2013] Nizzar tries to crush Wanyo, but Wanyo is INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:43 2013] Gream tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:43 2013] Gream tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:43 2013] Gream tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:45 2013] Nizzar tries to crush Wanyo, but Wanyo is INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:45 2013] Nizzar tries to crush Wanyo, but Wanyo is INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:45 2013] Solsek begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:47 2013] Nizzar crushes Lite for 29 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:47 2013] Nizzar was burned.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:47 2013] You feel dazed.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:47 2013] Nizzar kicks Lite for 53 points of damage.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:47 2013] Nizzar was burned.
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:47 2013] Kebartik tries to slash Lite, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:47 2013] Kebartik tries to kick Lite, but misses!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:48 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:48 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:48 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:48 2013] Solsek's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:49 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:49 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:49 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:49 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:49 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:49 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:49 2013] Ender tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:49 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:49 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:49 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] Gream tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] Gream tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] Gream tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] Ender tries to pierce YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] Ender tries to slash YOU, but  are INVULNERABLE!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:50 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:51 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:51 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:51 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:51 2013] You can't cast spells while invulnerable!
[Sun Mar 03 11:49:51 2013] You are unstunned.

looks like 18 seconds to me

[Sear]

Samwise nerd alerted me to this thread, so here I am to make my one forum post.




Tranquil Staff never had a set duration at any point on live. It had a random duration of 1 to 12 seconds. It was still the best pvp weapon in the game even during Velious.

Smedys concern about resists also seems valid.

I HOPE THIS HELPS

[Clark]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You shouldn't have to stack MR to 200 sacrificing all other resists to just be able to reach the 95% root cap

good point

[Nirgon]

I gotta say that Jinxat did proc this on me in Lavastorm, I was able to yonder while still spinning but unable to move.

I keep saying I think the full 18s stun is classic BUT that single memory firmly sticks out otherwise.

I've lurked the EQ mac boards and found out they cost 150k there because it is so rare and no one really camps it.

Iirc the Kunark "uber rare drops" were much rarer than they are here.

Random 1-12 stun, but full spin/root sticks out for me I think. 18s.... eh don't think so.

[Dullah]

Now we have the good ole Skean in play for almost all melee. Its easily obtainable and basically does the same thing as t-staff, but is resistable. Both proc spin stun for set duration effectively trivializing tactics or skill involved in the pee vee pee.

Sad times for pvp.

[Nirgon]

Someone needs to obtain and proc a tstaff on a player on eqmac a few times.

As far as resists, get in line!

[Sear]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I gotta say that Jinxat did proc this on me in Lavastorm, I was able to yonder while still spinning but unable to move.

I keep saying I think the full 18s stun is classic BUT that single memory firmly sticks out otherwise.

I've lurked the EQ mac boards and found out they cost 150k there because it is so rare and no one really camps it.

Iirc the Kunark "uber rare drops" were much rarer than they are here.

Random 1-12 stun, but full spin/root sticks out for me I think. 18s.... eh don't think so.

Yeah I am positive on that 1-12.

18 seconds would allow you to full-to-zero almost any class on one proc.

from http://web.archive.org/web/200112241....html?item=572

Ahout Proc By: Anonymous
Posted @ Sun, May 20th 11:07 AM 2001 Score: Good[4.00]
And lets not forget to mention that the proc is UNRESISTABLE , Nothing can resist it, on the mobs like 54+ it doesnt stune them but it will interupt there casting. Its a 120DD and a 1 to 12 second stun. Im 47 and got lucky and won a roll on it the other day in karnors (yahhhooo) I about had a heart attack, glad I got my IFS the week b4 and started pracing 2hb was at 50, now im at 212, cant wait to proc time :O)



I have this staff By: Anonymous
Posted @ Fri, May 25th 10:40 PM 2001 Score: Decent[2.50]
Ok, we all know the issues that monks have with weight. Frankly, I like the fact that I can hit for 115 (at level 43) with just under 200 skill in 2hb better then I would like those few extra ac points. The proc is a 120 point unresistable dd from what I understand, as well as a up to 12 second stun. At this point I don't give a rats ass that I'm at 18 weight. With this thing I beat stuff up, end of story.

I would peg the drop rate at 2% (arguably closer to 1%). You'd get the named npc (skeletal warlord) maybe once an hour if you camped the jail area.

[Sear]

also Skean was shit on live. Proc didn't land any more than SBD proc did.

[SamwiseRed]

searyx has spoken, can we get a fixed pending update?