Making a rogue. Dorf or Barb?

[Jauna]

I have a failed Ranger project from like a year ago and have lots and lots of str chainmail/rogue stuff, even an offhand. I dunno how important DEX is, but damn that stam.

So if DEX is important and stuff, dwarf sounds nice because barrel rolls and shit
And if not, rogue smash.

Thoughts?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a failed Ranger project from like a year ago and have lots and lots of str chainmail/rogue stuff, even an offhand. I dunno how important DEX is, but damn that stam.

So if DEX is important and stuff, dwarf sounds nice because barrel rolls and shit
And if not, rogue smash.

Thoughts?

Bearded dwarf female for the hot au natural hippie look plus great melee stats if you a dirty casual that will not be wearing BiS gears anytime soon.

Barb female for massive boobs, stamina, and strength. Great if you never plan to join a raid guild and need the stats. Slam is pretty useless but nice to have just because.

Gnome female for miniature cutesy slaughterhouse fun. Looking through walls bonus fun times. Also can wear robes. Stats pitiful, but STR is easy to get.

[GinnasP99]

Dwarf for barrel rolls imo, do the brown hair with bangs face for the best DE version

[Tupakk]

Halfling all the way

[GinnasP99]

Speaking of rogues, anybody have a list of all the mobs in the game that see through sneak/hide ? So far all I know is NtoV flurries and some mobs in plane of hate. Is there any that I'm missing ? (ohh, the dogs in chardok too)

[Tupakk]

Originally Posted by GinnasP99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Speaking of rogues, anybody have a list of all the mobs in the game that see through sneak/hide ? So far all I know is NtoV flurries and some mobs in plane of hate. Is there any that I'm missing ? (ohh, the dogs in chardok too)

Bats in SolB

[Bummey]

Originally Posted by GinnasP99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Speaking of rogues, anybody have a list of all the mobs in the game that see through sneak/hide ? So far all I know is NtoV flurries and some mobs in plane of hate. Is there any that I'm missing ? (ohh, the dogs in chardok too)

Don't trust most of the See Hide tags in the wiki. Someone bad and wrong put a bunch of those in. I remove them when I can, and update them for mobs that see through hide.

Bats and fire giants in Nagafen's Lair
Liches, banshees, Maestro, and Innoruuk in Plane of Hate
Chokidai (scaled wolves) in Chardok
Apparently some goos in Charasis but I've never been seen
Most dragons in ToV (dunno exactly since I've never seen them up long enough to attempt a con) and some drakes in NToV.

Probably a few more, but these are the most notable I can recall off the top of my head. If I remember any more I'll make a new reply.


p.s. assling is the best. gnome is also acceptable.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Bummey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't trust most of the See Hide tags in the wiki. Someone bad and wrong put a bunch of those in. I remove them when I can, and update them for mobs that see through hide.

Keep in mind that this server (and its wiki) has been around for a long time. Lots of mechanics, including which mobs see through hide, have changed over time. So, it's quite possible that those tags actually were correct once upon a time, not put in by "someone bad."

But in any case, kudos to you for fixing them!

[Bummey]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keep in mind that this server (and its wiki) has been around for a long time. Lots of mechanics, including which mobs see through hide, have changed over time. So, it's quite possible that those tags actually were correct once upon a time, not put in by "someone bad."

Fair enough!

[Jauna]

I got sucked in by the titty argument. And I guess hero bracers. and slightly higher stamina, and hero bracers.