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Yea 200 posts while the server was down and almost all of it was people egging you on.
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I agree with most of your posts, so was kind of surprised that you threw this out there as a "fact"...
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In any case, it's hardly predominate except in certain areas (just like equally inaccurate stuff about the Civil War is "known" in certain other areas).
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I imagine it's as much fringe opinion as the war in Iraq being about oil. Or the money that controls it.
Stuff gets blurry after time.
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Just as the Civil War is taught in our public schools nowadays as to have been about Slavery. Pfft.
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States' rights arguments were tossed about on both sides meaning whatever was convenient for them at any given time. From wikipedia: Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens said that slavery was the chief cause of secession in his Cornerstone Speech shortly before the war. After Confederate defeat, Stephens became one of the most ardent defenders of the Lost Cause. There was a striking contrast between Stephens' post-war states' rights assertion that slavery did not cause secession and his pre-war Cornerstone Speech. Similarly, Confederate President Jefferson Davis also reversed his original position, that the central cause of the war was the issue of slavery, arguing after the war that states' rights was its principal cause. While Southerners often used states' rights arguments to defend slavery, sometimes roles were reversed, as when Southerners demanded national laws to defend their interests with the Gag Rule and the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850. On these issues, Northerners wanted to defend their states' rights. My statement about the war in Iraq was meant to be subtle sarcasm. May have been a mite too subtle. The Civil War was about slavery, no ifs ands or buts. States' rights was the argument that defended the south's right to keep slavery without federal intervention. It also was argued that the south had the right to secede based upon those very same rights, however, what was the underlying reason for the south's desire to secede? Slavery, and the protection of it. So the blanket of "states' rights" can be used to obfuscate the real reason for the war. Leading back to my attempt at subtle sarcasm.
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Oh...and if you want a clearer picture, if you've never read Alexander Stephens' Cornerstone Speech, you might want to. He states very clearly what the reasons for the revolution are.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/l...cumentprint=76
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Yes, Slavery was related, but the idea that the union fought the secessionist southern states because of Slavery is a modern idea. Lincoln freed the slaves for morale more than anything else. Quote:
I know you want it to have been because of Slavery. Actually, I think that is a really nice idea - I really do. And I wish it were the case, but it wasn't. I will definitely grant that Emancipation was one of the great things that came out of the war, even though it was a side-effect. You can respond of course, but I'm done. The thread should go back to rants and flames about our "collective act" now. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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