Tranquil Staff: Need Before Greed?

[Orruar]

Clearly the only way for people to not be greedy is to simply destroy all loots that drop.

Or maybe everyone should get an equal chance at every loot. NBG only works when everyone is cool with it, which usually only happens if you're in a guild group.

[Orikle]

I love p99 forum drama work flys by

[Vladigan]

What I see here is people arguing over who"s "greed" is justified. Its all greed if you covet it yes? I mean, do you "need" that upgrade to survive? To play your character? To enjoy the game?

So the OP is upset because his greed was not more important than the other Group members Greed? I mean, its not like they helped in the fights to get that staff to drop right??

To top it all off, the OP's plan was just to ninja loot the item because "he earned it"....

Wow... all I can say is .... Wow.....

(NBG typically applies to guild raids and No Drops, IMO.)

[cyryllis]

remind me to never group with you


I have to agree with most people on the server when I say that nbg only works in guild groups or groups with friends. NBG in a pickup group, unless specifically stated in the beginning of the group (lol see how many people stay for that) is not really an option.

Everyone can benefit from that money...

[Jokesteve]

if its a pickup group, im more inclined to roll over NBG - if its friends or guild its typically NBG.

If i don't know you from adam or eve then why would I let you walk away with 30k over me that I could use just as easily.

I'm a monk by the way, so I'm not being greedy here!

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Jokesteve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if its a pickup group, im more inclined to roll over NBG - if its friends or guild its typically NBG.

If i don't know you from adam or eve then why would I let you walk away with 30k over me that I could use just as easily.

I'm a monk by the way, so I'm not being greedy here!

No, you are being greedy. We're all greedy. We'd all like to have things for ourselves. It's probably a good thing, as it helps drive us produce more for others. People don't go work 8 hours a day so that the world can have a few more cars. They do it so they can have some money so they can buy some shit for themselves. The reason why NBG only works with guild groups is the same reason socialism only works in small groups/families.

[Handull]

Originally Posted by Lowbacca32 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been camping LCY for a couple days in KC... haven't seen a tranquil staff drop yet, but got into a discussion today with a ranger in the group. He said that everyone gets to roll on the T staff if it drops because it's 30k for any class. That's great for him, but my 51 monk is my main and that's who I was playing. If the T staff would have dropped I was going to grab it and never look back, whether people roll or not.

Now, this seems to me like that's what should happen. 6 players in the group and only 1 monk, using an imbued fighters staff. The T staff is an upgrade for the monk. What are the server rules in this situation? I don't want to just ninja the T staff but I definately don't think that other group members have the same rights to it as I do. Ideas?

or you could NBG/ninjaloot the tstaff, sell it for 30k, but other upgrades, then pretend like you totaly need the next one that drops when you are with a new group. maybe you wouldn't do that, but don't act like it hasn't happened before.

NBG rules always depend on who is in the group, how valuable the item is relative to what the people in the group find valuable, and if the item is for a quest or not. not that I've grouped in KC in a while, but I'd feel happy letting a monk in need loot the pawbuster pipe (even back when it sold for 15k) if they didn't yet have epic+robe, but I'd for sure roll on a tstaff.

good luck

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you are being greedy. We're all greedy. We'd all like to have things for ourselves. It's probably a good thing, as it helps drive us produce more for others. People don't go work 8 hours a day so that the world can have a few more cars. They do it so they can have some money so they can buy some shit for themselves. The reason why NBG only works with guild groups is the same reason socialism only works in small groups/families.

Good point!
I would not call it greed thought - its a just reward for work and commitment. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Vidar]

Originally Posted by Lowbacca32 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been camping LCY for a couple days in KC... haven't seen a tranquil staff drop yet, but got into a discussion today with a ranger in the group. He said that everyone gets to roll on the T staff if it drops because it's 30k for any class. That's great for him, but my 51 monk is my main and that's who I was playing. If the T staff would have dropped I was going to grab it and never look back, whether people roll or not.

Now, this seems to me like that's what should happen. 6 players in the group and only 1 monk, using an imbued fighters staff. The T staff is an upgrade for the monk. What are the server rules in this situation? I don't want to just ninja the T staff but I definately don't think that other group members have the same rights to it as I do. Ideas?

Everyone should /roll

[Sarkhan]

As most said, it should be established with the group on what loot system will be used.

I like NBG, but only if it is what the group decides they want.
A 30k item is very nice and could help anyone.. Maybe there is a lvl 50 SK in the group who is poorly geared and is a main - how would he ever get pp to gear himself if his group gives the 30k item automatically to a single member? That works great for you, being the monk, but something that is worth that much could benefit anyone.

All in all, discuss with your group before hand and work things out before an item drops and causes a problem.