Any Cliffnotes of what each class gains in Velious?

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by bluejam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Prepare to see all new, all time highest back-stabs for ridiculous amounts of damage."

so 15dmg velious piercers got a higher max. dmg than epic? k.

yeah thats such a bad post on so many levels

ele should be embarrassed that he quoted it =p

[Ele]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah thats such a bad post on so many levels

ele should be embarrassed that he quoted it =p

tl;dr

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin and PoP fixed casters. PoP was the pinnacle of balance

I loved Luclin because I got to see melees complain a caster could kill them in 10 seconds. It was the ultimate in irony.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by bluejam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Prepare to see all new, all time highest back-stabs for ridiculous amounts of damage."

so 15dmg velious piercers got a higher max. dmg than epic? k.

you'll be getting higher backstabs because of a higher ATK value i'm p sure

[Mac Drettj]

all hybrids get pure melee skill caps afaik

xp pen goes away

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you'll be getting higher backstabs because of a higher ATK value i'm p sure

sounds right, couple slots give +atk, plus predator

[Psykes]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clerics: Donal's BP gets nerfed to pointlessness. For a few months, Cleric Velious BPs have Celestial Elixir, cast time gets lengthened, then gets nerfed to Mark of Karn. Like Cobblestone said Aegolism is nice.

Pointless? Donals still comes in handy when your at end of a chain and oom and can spot heal

[Daldaen]

Beyond my current druid list:

Root and Snare stack now -- 1 Month after Velious - 1
Chloroblast + Nature's Touch spells added -- 2 Months after Velious - 1
Track Skill Cap Increased from 50 -> 125 -- 3 Months After Velious - 1
Faydedar + Venril Sathir made triggerable for Epic Quest -- 3 Months after Velious - 1
Venril Sathir made 3 day respawn, VSR faster respawn -- 4 Months after Velious - 1
Foraging when hungry/thirsty makes you automatically get food/water -- 4 Months after Velious - 1
Wind of the North/South can be casted from anywhere + Egress works indoors -- 6 Months after Velious - 1

Day 1 Druids get (or atleast when you get the spell/drop):

Indoor castable stun (I am fairly positive Fury of Air is indoor castable...)
ATK Debuff
Fire Resist/AC Debuff
Fixed Timer self Invis
Bear Pet (useful for pet pulling)
Protection of the Glades (6 mana regen group HP buff, stacks with Clarity/Bard Song)
Clicky Regrowth of the Grove (from Velious BP) means never spending 600 mana on Regrowth again and entire group always regening at 15/tick

Also I *think* Surefall Glade port comes in very late Velious. It is possible it was released with Luclin then I don't recall.

[bluejam]

some more atk == ridiculous amounts of damage. k.


the post is (at times) really dense..

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Psykes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pointless? Donals still comes in handy when your at end of a chain and oom and can spot heal

Beyond a random ch every 7.5 minutes that requires a buff slot with a 30 second lead time that only one cleric can cast per person, yeah pretty pointless.

IMO better off with the CE bp, if it even gets implemented, an apothic staff, or just medding/modding. Especially since we aren't able to take advantage of med ticks while clicks are casting.

[Daldaen]

CE BP was so broken to start. I'm fine with it being in for classic, but it really needs to be nerfed in a timely manner.

Donal's should've been the same deal. But now you have people trioing royals and duoing Ragefire because we've had Donal's for 4 years like this. Really surprised it didn't deserve the Ivandyr's Hoop treatment.