Progressive leadership in a nutshell

[Byue]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good luck in 2024.

brutal takedown.

You know how Bernie Bros basically made people walk away from Bernie?

A lot of people saw republicans and said, nope, not my jam, these tikki torches rally and then looked at trump lying over 30,000 times while in office and said no thanks.
Just know, we all felt cheated when Trump won because we stayed home while you guys voted in droves but there was no fraud, just not our person, winning.

You will be a much better person when you can lose gracefully.

Children in cages: no solution but point out Obama built the cages.
Facebook: LITERAL FASCISM!

We see you.
We really do.
You are one ugly soul.

one could say.
a deplorable, ugly soul.

[HalflingSpergand]

Remember how you dont live in the u.s.? Hahahaha

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You wanna go live in the desert or arctic regions? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These are some of the most serene and beautiful places to live.

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by HalflingSpergand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember how you dont live in the u.s.? Hahahaha

He doesn’t live in reality, seems like he lives on Twitter

SAD BIGLY

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good for him. But disdain for Trump brought out WAY more people against him, than for him.


Except he didn't, which is why he isn't president right now.

Most states count absentee ballots last (this was explained on election day, and again ad nauseum in the days following). Trump has be constantly repeating that mail ballots were unsafe, so as a result, the vast majority of mail ballots ended up being Dem.



Nope. This was proven by the vote counts.

Good luck in 2024.

There are big differences between 100% and vast majority, widespread vs. strategically targeted voter fraud, and evidence vs. proof of voter fraud. Conflating any of these is unintentionally ignorant or blatantly dishonest.

Even in very blue (red) states like NY/CA (AR/Dakotas) or by demographics (e.g. in-person vs. absentee vs. military) anything over 90% for one side never happens. I don't think the 4am vote dumps were 100% Biden (they couldn't be THAT stupid, well maybe they could), but they were well over 95%. This is impossible. Anyone with a cursory understanding of voting patterns, history, or basic statistics does not dispute this. The USA is not just split down partisan lines, it is almost never split in a place more than 80/20.

The media has set up an intentional straw man with the term "widespread" fraud. Early morning vote dumps, rushed without signature verification, after poll watchers were sent home was not widespread... it was concentrated in key places, surgical in nature. A few of these key cities broke election law to change rules allowing votes significantly after the election to be counted. These places directly determined the outcome. These facts are undebatable, and the media won't focus on them. Many honest progressives I am friends with can at least admit they might have had a nudge across the finish line [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whoever said earlier in the thread that only 4 cases of voter fraud were detected is full of shit. Even independent right wing YouTube journalists like Steven Crowder showed >10 cases of voter fraud (fake addresses) in just one small area able to be uncovered in < 1 day. They were then magically scrubbed/changed by the districts afterwards and the tech overlords swept in to cover it up. Honest journalism now gets you censored, just like the Hunter Biden laptop, CNN and Project Veritas, and many more.

Freedom of the press now extends to libel, defamation, and publishing lies to which they are, in the end, unaccountable.

It is entirely possible that the fraud didn't swing the election, and it is entirely possible that it did. We don't know because we don't have the information yet, if we ever will. It is an impossible task. If anybody says that fraud vs. no fraud is clear cut either way, that is a good indication they were in on it, foolish, or so indoctrinated that they cannot think independently in a quantitative and statistical frame.

[Kaveh]

Yeah who knew Atlanta would swing Democratic

That one is a real puzzler

[Kaveh]

Breaking news:

Wakanda supported joe Biden

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Toehammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are big differences between 100% and vast majority, widespread vs. strategically targeted voter fraud, and evidence vs. proof of voter fraud. Conflating any of these is unintentionally ignorant or blatantly dishonest.

Even in very blue (red) states like NY/CA (AR/Dakotas) or by demographics (e.g. in-person vs. absentee vs. military) anything over 90% for one side never happens. I don't think the 4am vote dumps were 100% Biden (they couldn't be THAT stupid, well maybe they could), but they were well over 95%. This is impossible. Anyone with a cursory understanding of voting patterns, history, or basic statistics does not dispute this. The USA is not just split down partisan lines, it is almost never split in a place more than 80/20.

The media has set up an intentional straw man with the term "widespread" fraud. Early morning vote dumps, rushed without signature verification, after poll watchers were sent home was not widespread... it was concentrated in key places, surgical in nature. A few of these key cities broke election law to change rules allowing votes significantly after the election to be counted. These places directly determined the outcome. These facts are undebatable, and the media won't focus on them. Many honest progressives I am friends with can at least admit they might have had a nudge across the finish line [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whoever said earlier in the thread that only 4 cases of voter fraud were detected is full of shit. Even independent right wing YouTube journalists like Steven Crowder showed >10 cases of voter fraud (fake addresses) in just one small area able to be uncovered in < 1 day. They were then magically scrubbed/changed by the districts afterwards and the tech overlords swept in to cover it up. Honest journalism now gets you censored, just like the Hunter Biden laptop, CNN and Project Veritas, and many more.

Freedom of the press now extends to libel, defamation, and publishing lies to which they are, in the end, unaccountable.

It is entirely possible that the fraud didn't swing the election, and it is entirely possible that it did. We don't know because we don't have the information yet, if we ever will. It is an impossible task. If anybody says that fraud vs. no fraud is clear cut either way, that is a good indication they were in on it, foolish, or so indoctrinated that they cannot think independently in a quantitative and statistical frame.

That's a whole lot of words just to say that there isn't evidence that the election was stolen.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good for him. But disdain for Trump brought out WAY more people against him, than for him.


Except he didn't, which is why he isn't president right now.

Most states count absentee ballots last (this was explained on election day, and again ad nauseum in the days following). Trump has be constantly repeating that mail ballots were unsafe, so as a result, the vast majority of mail ballots ended up being Dem.



Nope. This was proven by the vote counts.

Good luck in 2024.

1) 80 million people did not vote for a potato because of orange man mean tweets. Dislike for a candidate historically has never been a factor in massive record breaking turnout for the other side. Trump rallies were massive and his support grew from 2016. His overall approval on election day also doesn't reflect your opinion. On the contrary, the exact opposite

2) Except he did. Did you watch the election. Trump won the historic battleground states he needed to win (FL, OH) easily where election security was much more organized and tight. Potato was dragged over the finish line primarily in states run by blue governors or where election laws were illegally changed (cuz the covidz) without the consent of the legislature and ratio in the vote counts were 100/0 in favor of potato during the early morning vote dumps

The entire reason why Bush won Florida is because of this. He was able to prove FL state election laws were changed without the legislators which is unconstitutional. None of that evidence and much more evidence was ever allowed inside a courtroom in 2020. Obviously the courts didn't want to see cities burned to the ground (like all throughout the summer) because Democrats didn't get their way

3) Yep - It's not believable that 80 million people voted for a Potato

2024 will be interesting. Ideally we'll need Voter ID in every state which Potato Farmers shouldn't object to since the 80 million vote count was legit.

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a whole lot of words just to say that there isn't evidence that the election was stolen.

How would you know there is no evidence when it has been censored by Big Tech/Dem Media and never allowed to actually be presented in a courtroom?

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a whole lot of words just to say that there isn't evidence that the election was stolen.

Nice evasion. If none of what I wrote bothers you, you are a partisan hack and uninterested in election integrity.

The USA used to have conservatives and liberals who cared about due process, truth, and integrity, some still exist, but your response is evidence that people throw all ethics and civil discourse out the window if their side is winning.

As an American, you must show a little backbone.