Sirken's proposal

[-Catherin-]

Just saying what I see from my point of view Sirken. And that doesn't mean im right obviously. I already admitted my view is biased [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Either way even though im in a T2 guild there really isn't anything at stake for me other than something else to do.

I'm pointing out the contention of the matter right now is the big 4. So both sides should really just get to the heart of the matter that this is what its all about and stop playing word/power games

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sounds pretty selfish. T1 guilds are giving up mobs, T2 guilds are gaining mobs, nobody loves it 100%,

kinda sounds perfect to me

T2 has been giving up mobs for years. Remove FTE as the defacto rule and then we can talk about who is doing the actual giving up.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just saying what I see Sirken. I already admitted my view is biased [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

<3

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

T2 has been giving up mobs for years. Remove FTE as the defacto rule and then we can talk about who is doing the actual giving up.

you have to have something, before u can actually give it up.

[ElanoraBryght]

Without adding start of month planned server repops, some raid mobs - half? Does anyone have a chart tracking all kills and not just most recent kill time - will only spawn once in the first 10 days of any given month.

[falkun]

I like the heavy-handed PNP punishments, even though they still require fraps and petitionquest. Keep those.

Can we get something to limit FTE snipes? Seeing aggro logs where 1 man gets FTE, another guild puts 15-25 on the mob (<5seconds after), and then the original guild puts 5-10 on the mob a minute later and keep the mob due to FTE is stupid, especially on encounters that are not pulled (so excluding fay, tal, sev, and possibly gore).

That would begin to cover the PNP d-baggery.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you have to have something, before u can actually give it up.

So by refusing to DA stall tank, FTE snipe, leapfrog, train with plausible deniability, and create mounds of petitions and issues for you to mediate we have therefore given up our opportunity to see end game content. Got it.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by ElanoraBryght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without adding start of month planned server repops, some raid mobs - half? Does anyone have a chart tracking all kills and not just most recent kill time - will only spawn once in the first 10 days of any given month.

With variance this will always change. You could have more or less in a date range. They could repop on day 1 of the first next month after an agreement to set it off right.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So by refusing to DA stall tank, FTE snipe, leapfrog, train with plausible deniability, and create mounds of petitions and issues for you to mediate we have therefore given up our opportunity to see end game content. Got it.

not at all what i said, and not at all what the post i quoted said.

but A+ trying to stick words in my mouth

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like the heavy-handed PNP punishments, even though they still require fraps and petitionquest.

big big fan of the perma bans and suspensions for training etc.

Theres no need for all of the douchebaggery that's been going on over the past years.