A Socialist Position on Predator Pornographers

[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm against Hitler...unlike some of Trump's base of late. And I don't think Republicans or Democrats have a big problem with this kind of porn because they haven't even talked about it yet. A couple of super christen ex-porn girls made a documentary or two that is about it.

yeah, obviously everybody know all about this stuff and have watched all the documentaries on it. who hasn't?







WHO HASNT?!!??

[NachtMystium]

Dictum. You've solidified my disdain for you with this stupid shit.

Seriously defend this right here:
A WILLING adult female, who knows EXACTLY what facial abuse does, wants to get paid to be FACIALLY ABUSED, then is surprised when she starts getting facially abused??? Where is the injustice?

I don't get off on all that extreme shit but this is some next level dumb dumb shit.

Don't even come at me with "Misleading" or "Lured". If "She did her research" and "Watched some stuff on the site" it's easily fucking way extreme and just by a few of those audition clips I know exactly what they're all about.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by NachtMystium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dictum. You've solidified my disdain for you with this stupid shit.

Seriously defend this right here:
A WILLING adult female, who knows EXACTLY what facial abuse does, wants to get paid to be FACIALLY ABUSED, then is surprised when she starts getting facially abused??? Where is the injustice?

I don't get off on all that extreme shit but this is some next level dumb dumb shit.

Don't even come at me with "Misleading" or "Lured". If "She did her research" and "Watched some stuff on the site" it's easily fucking way extreme and just by a few of those audition clips I know exactly what they're all about.

Well I'm glade you as (I'm guessing as a guy in your 30s/40s that watched plenty of porn like me) know facial abuse is all about.

But if women routinely walk off set and say it was harder than thought, never do it again, etc...It's pretty hard to claim they are all "A WILLING adult female, who knows EXACTLY what facial abuse does." If they knew exactly what Facial Abuse does -- they wouldn't have walked on the set only to quit or regret it later would they?

And lets just point out here : just because we can find desperate 14 year olds that will do probably this exact thing for money -- doesn't mean it should be legal or is right. I'm just saying when the girl is 18 it isn't necessarily a lot better. That's a bit too young (particularly for a millennial) to assume they know exactly what they are signing up for.

This isn't a theory -- this is what girls said themselves. They didn't know what they were getting into. They regreated it. Usually a women like Ginna Lynn for example, won't straight up say "yea that wasn't worth the 3000 dollers" or whatever they paid her -- but you can fucking tell she didn't think it was worth it later. And she is about as pro as you get in this sort of thing.

In her words:

"Well I did do a scene for Facial Abuse.com and
will never do it again. I think that is drawing the line
and its probably only a matter of time until they are looked at."

[NachtMystium]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I'm glade you as (I'm guessing as a guy in your 30s/40s that watched plenty of porn like me) know facial abuse is all about.

But if women routinely walk off set and say it was harder than thought, never do it again, etc...It's pretty hard to claim they are all "A WILLING adult female, who knows EXACTLY what facial abuse does." If they knew exactly what Facial Abuse does -- they wouldn't have walked on the set only to quit or regret it later would they?

And lets just point out here : just because we can find desperate 14 year olds that will do probably this exact thing for money -- doesn't mean it should be legal or is right. I'm just saying when the girl is 18 it isn't necessarily a lot better. That's a bit too young (particularly for a millennial) to assume they know exactly what they are signing up for.

Like I said, I've never been to the site and just by the few meme videos I saw I could tell, this is some seriously extreme shit. I'd have to assume if I was about to go try and get a gig with this site I'd have done more research than some guy on the internet looking for laughs.

This isn't a theory -- this is what girls said themselves. They didn't know what they were getting into. They regreated it. Usually a women like Ginna Lynn for example, won't straight up say "yea that wasn't worth the 3000 dollers" or whatever they paid her -- but you can fucking tell she didn't think it was worth it later. And she is about as pro as you get in this sort of thing.

In her words:

"Well I did do a scene for Facial Abuse.com and
will never do it again. I think that is drawing the line
and its probably only a matter of time until they are looked at."

Bro. If you're willingly signing up for a porn called facial abuse not expecting to get facially abused, you're gonna have a bad time. I'm 29 years old, I've never been to the site, I've only watched those meme videos where he degrades the auditioners(and in his words, he does it to make them regret even doing porn in the first place).

Idk where you're getting 14 year olds but it's understandable that you're going off on weird socialist dumb dumb stuff that just makes a simple topic into weirdo land.

First thing's first: Sex-work can be fulfilling if that's your thing, whatever. However, facial abuse isn't the first scene i'd go looking for as a "Young unsuspecting female who is innocently looking into getting into the porn world" Lmao. You're mental.

Not to mention, in her post she had many breaks and was talking about how awful it was like she was forced to stay there or something... she could've left at any time, especially "The first 2 unbearable minutes".

long story short: don't sign up for obvious abusive shit if you dont expect to get abused, and if you're too dumb to see blatant things for what they are, then you have to learn the lesson the hard way, which she did.

Like I said, I've only seen the meme videos of the producer degrading the auditoners, and just from that I could tell this was some seriously extreme shit. I'd have to assume someone seriously seeking out a gig with these guys would do more research than me, how they couldn't put 2 and 2 together from that is a real head-scratcher.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by NachtMystium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bro. If you're willingly signing up for a porn called facial abuse not expecting to get facially abused, you're gonna have a bad time. I'm 29 years old, I've never been to the site, I've only watched those meme videos where he degrades the auditioners(and in his words, he does it to make them regret even doing porn in the first place).

Idk where you're getting 14 year olds but it's understandable that you're going off on weird socialist dumb dumb stuff that just makes a simple topic into weirdo land.

First thing's first: Sex-work can be fulfilling if that's your thing, whatever. However, facial abuse isn't the first scene i'd go looking for as a "Young unsuspecting female who is innocently looking into getting into the porn world" Lmao. You're mental.

Not to mention, in her post she had many breaks and was talking about how awful it was like she was forced to stay there or something... she could've left at any time, especially "The first 2 unbearable minutes".

long story short: don't sign up for obvious abusive shit if you dont expect to get abused, and if you're too dumb to see blatant things for what they are, then you have to learn the lesson the hard way, which she did.

Like I said, I've only seen the meme videos of the producer degrading the auditoners, and just from that I could tell this was some seriously extreme shit. I'd have to assume someone seriously seeking out a gig with these guys would do more research than me, how they couldn't put 2 and 2 together from that is a real head-scratcher.

I think your missing any real empathy for what its like to be a porn girl. And no, I don't think they are all victimized by the industry all the time. But you have to realize when your meeting people and doing rough porn regularily -- there are certain norms like any other business.

This site I'm talking about breaks those norms* and feeds off the shock the girls experience. The real person -- not some submissive character she is playing. They purposefully try to say things that truly disturb them and get them emotionally fucked up while stretching their boundaries physically more than just about any other porn out there.

This comes out of left field if you have done like 8 hardcore gangbang sceens with gagging and slapping degrading comments. Once you do that -- wouldn't you assume you kindda know what rough porn is about? All these sites are named ridiculous shit like "facefuckers" and "gagthebitch" -- you really think they wouldn't take "facial abuse" with a grain of salt like everything else?


Instead this site is uniquely bad and is not reasonable to suggest every girl do enough independent research to know exactly what they are getting into. You think any girl reads their contract? So what if they did? Do you think they would understand a word of it? Trust me -- they wouldn't. You just sign it like a lot of other things people do in their life. Let's stop pretending we are in a era where corporate law is readable to anyone except people that read a lot of corporate law all the time (sometimes not even to them).

*One of these norms, is to calm down when the porn actress has to stop everything. These guys amp it up when the scene continues. That's probably why she thought it would get better...and left shortly after it didn't. (They basically blackmailed a facial out of her for $200 by saying it was that or nothing after all the she did).

[Baler]

I think people are looking into this too deeply.. Let's back up..

Bad parenting = bad kids who grow up to become bad parents.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people are looking into this too deeply.. Let's back up..

Bad parenting = bad kids who grow up to become bad parents.

I realize I got in deep on this topic that borders creepy...that's kind of how far you need to go to explain why this particular thing is wrong.

But yea -- I don't think girls from good parents choose to be face fucked on camera. Unfortunately, some of boys from good parents decide they want to face fuck their girlfriend though -- almost certainly because that porn is posted everywhere now....rather than a rare disturbing niche thing 35 year old pervs get into. So where does that leave all our girls from good parents?

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real question is would Germany have started WW2 and committed atrocities against the Jews if Hitler was never born? And by that I mean was the social climate in Germany such that WW2/Holocaust was probably going to be inevitable and whoever lead was just a figure head? Is Hitler personally responsible? I think its completely probable that he was just the spark that lite the gas of hate for a people who were ready for something to change (Remind you of anything HINT: modern America). I typically lean towards the idea of governments running themselves and whatever happens is the will of the collective whole, but Hitler was also totalitarian so I think he deserves more blame. Its like how people call George W Bush a mass murderer even though I strongly believe he has never personally killed anyone. Not sure where I am going with any of this by the way... Just posting in a sketchy thread.

so, what? be nicer to conservatives or they might genocide you? idiot.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hitler would have not been able to do what he did without the underlying conditions in place by the Paris Peace Conference 1919. The Germans were paying heavy reparations for starting World War II. This provided the climate of resentment for Hitler's rise.

Correction: World War I created the groundwork for Germany's aggression in World War II. Germany was the only great power that had incentive to go to war -- because they were paying huge reparations to France. The conservatives (eventually the fascists) also got on this historical revisionism about how France owed them land in the Rhineland or something. This was mostly a tactic to discredit German leftists politicians for supporting the peace... but eventually the population ran with it.

Think: Donald Trump and his assurances of "great deals."

[Rader]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Correction: World War I created the groundwork for Germany's aggression in World War II. Germany was the only great power that had incentive to go to war -- because they were paying huge reparations to France. The conservatives (eventually the fascists) also got on this historical revisionism about how France owed them land in the Rhineland or something. This was mostly a tactic to discredit German leftists politicians for supporting the peace... but eventually the population ran with it.

Think: Donald Trump and his assurances of "great deals."

Most leaders are a reaction to the failures that preceded them.

Overwrought war protests led to Nixon.
Nixon's crimes led to Carter.
Carter's malaise led to Reagan.
Reagan was successful and Bush 1 inherited that.
Bush 1's raising taxes led to Clinton.
Clinton's sex led to Bush 2.
Bush Derangement Syndrome led to Obama.
Obama's failures weakness and stupid lectures, on top of being a buttmonkey, led to Trump.