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Old 05-30-2014, 04:07 PM
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Skynet is already here. only need to speak to security analysts from the armed forces
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:18 PM
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and weaponizing space....
And it would be so easy to convince citizens we need to do it.

"Look! Scary aliens are coming for us! We need to make space weapons! And spaceworth warships!"

Just like terrorism in the middle east. Al Qaeda is coming for us, we must invade Iraq, etc.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:23 PM
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It does make you wonder if the increase in earth quakes or typhoons and so forth are being caused by man-made technology to disrupt the economies their enemies.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:36 PM
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It would make sense. The U.S. and its main rivals are locked in M.A.D. so they have to resort to proxy wars and other less direct methods like cyber warfare, economic warfare etc etc. Weather war would be hard to trace and is far more devastating over a wider area Not to mention the demoralizing affects of such actions. Causing drought conditions for instance could lead to famine which leads to internal strife causing a revolt or coup. Then you send in recovery crews to profit from redevelopment. Pretty sweet deal these guys are working.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:39 PM
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It would make sense. The U.S. and its main rivals are locked in M.A.D. so they have to resort to proxy wars and other less direct methods like cyber warfare, economic warfare etc etc. Weather war would be hard to trace and is far more devastating over a wider area Not to mention the demoralizing affects of such actions. Causing drought conditions for instance could lead to famine which leads to internal strife causing a revolt or coup. Then you send in recovery crews to profit from redevelopment. Pretty sweet deal these guys are working.
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Old 05-31-2014, 02:02 PM
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And it would be so easy to convince citizens we need to do it.

"Look! Scary aliens are coming for us! We need to make space weapons! And spaceworth warships!"

Just like terrorism in the middle east. Al Qaeda is coming for us, we must invade Iraq, etc.
more in reference to this you nimrod
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

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It would make sense. The U.S. and its main rivals are locked in M.A.D. so they have to resort to proxy wars and other less direct methods like cyber warfare, economic warfare etc etc. Weather war would be hard to trace and is far more devastating over a wider area Not to mention the demoralizing affects of such actions. Causing drought conditions for instance could lead to famine which leads to internal strife causing a revolt or coup. Then you send in recovery crews to profit from redevelopment. Pretty sweet deal these guys are working.
causing a drought to start an uprising? why do that when we can freeze assets of a country's leader/s, effectively manipulate their economy, not physically harm any of its citizens other than what they do to themselves, and get lucky if they unite and rebel against their leader/s with US economic sanctions which are generally viewed as a positive measure by the international community. the international currency is the us dollar for a reason, but lots of people are impatient now and days. unfortunately.
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Old 05-31-2014, 02:21 PM
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Those are just possible scenarios. Sanctions come with unexpected backlash. Who is going to question mother nature? Geo-engineering being another.

Just a hint that the US could cause earthquakes and shut down your infrastructure is enough to be a deterrent as well. Nukes are just too dirty warfare is beyond that now.

People mentioned HAARP and if it is being used to manipulate or weaponize weather but there are many other uses for the technology. Weather manipulation could just be a side effect for all anyone in the public knows.
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Old 05-31-2014, 02:31 PM
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causing a drought to start an uprising? why do that when we can freeze assets of a country's leader/s, effectively manipulate their economy, not physically harm any of its citizens other than what they do to themselves, and get lucky if they unite and rebel against their leader/s with US economic sanctions which are generally viewed as a positive measure by the international community. the international currency is the us dollar for a reason, but lots of people are impatient now and days. unfortunately.
It's not that simple these days unless you're going to have a media blackout on it. With 9/11 and increased public awareness of what happened before it to get certain laws passed and things done, people know that there's some shady shit going on behind the curtains that we're not meant to have any interest in or awareness of.

Anyone remember the partition of Sudan in 2011? Totally oil based and allowing big businesses to get in there and get it out for cheap. Remember that on the news? It was mentioned in the UK but not frequently or for long.

Even the most hardcore tinfoil hat wearer is going to have a job explaining to someone on the street that the weather can be controlled.

Also the US dollar took a knock as the international currency when Obama increased the debt ceiling. Printing mo' money just depreciates the currency (like 1kpp doesn't go as far as it used to etc)

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Old 05-31-2014, 02:32 PM
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Those are just possible scenarios. Sanctions come with unexpected backlash. Who is going to question mother nature? Geo-engineering being another.

Just a hint that the US could cause earthquakes and shut down your infrastructure is enough to be a deterrent as well. Nukes are just too dirty warfare is beyond that now.

People mentioned HAARP and if it is being used to manipulate or weaponize weather but there are many other uses for the technology. Weather manipulation could just be a side effect for all anyone in the public knows.
i understand that, but the game is to never show your hand. if there were a pattern of odd weather in countries with conflict with the US then it wouldn't take the international community very long to figure out what's going on. too many eye balls.

post cold war is all about technology, covert, and economic attacks.
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