what kind of weed you smokin?

[Shannacore]

Stoppppppp fightingggggg

[Excision Rottun]

Originally Posted by mirko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.


OHHHH BURN

I blow up bridges for a living.

[w1ngz]

that's purdy, fraud.

i don't have the bank roll to be a snob -- mids make me happy. but when i can find it, northern lights makes me deliriously happy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[mirko]

Originally Posted by Grento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would I do that? You are right, I should be working 70 0r 80.

If you didn't smoke weed you could do your job more efficiently instead of being burnt out, you could cut 30 hours off your work week because you are excelling at your job. Then your boss would notice what a great job you were doing. He would be so impressed that you would get a promotion and a pay hike, and then you could knock another 10 hours off your work week. Then you would have more money because of your raise, and you'd save a hell of a lot of money from not having to buy weed. Then the supermodel would see what a hard worker you were and fall in love with you. You would get married and have lots of cute babies. You life would be grand.

[Shannacore]

Originally Posted by mirko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You would get married and have lots of cute babies. You life would be grand.

I like thiiiiiis paaaaaart

[Grento]

Originally Posted by mirko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you didn't smoke weed you could do your job more efficiently instead of being burnt out, you could cut 30 hours off your work week because you are excelling at your job. Then your boss would notice what a great job you were doing. He would be so impressed that you would get a promotion and a pay hike, and then you could knock another 10 hours off your work week. Then you would have more money because of your raise, and you'd save a hell of a lot of money from not having to buy weed. Then the supermodel would see what a hard worker you were and fall in love with you. You would get married and have lots of cute babies. You life would be grand.

10 hour work weeks and a supermodel? hmmm

[Omnimorph]

Originally Posted by Grento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

10 hour work weeks and a supermodel? hmmm

but then you'd have more time to dedicate to eq, and whilst you're there playing eq, your supermodel wife is neglecting the kids, getting drunk in the kitchen. She's now started talking to that smarmy neighbour you never liked called Edward... but you're too busy trying to get that fbss for your monk twink in time for when kunark comes out!!! now she's left you for him, you're in a custody battle which you don't show up to the hearing on because you're still eq'ing, your kids have left, you haven't bathed in days, and the boss is calling saying why aren't you in work?

oh, and you forgot to pay your electric bill...*bzzt* (computer off)

[Fraud]

Originally Posted by Omnimorph [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh, and you forgot to pay your electric bill...*bzzt* (computer off)

OMG NOT THE INTERNETS!

[vaire100]

Im picking up half oz of some excellent smoke, brilliant green with lovely trichomes and nice N. CA aroma.... and going to see clash of the titans 3D this weekend.

I saw avatar the same way... and im glad since it was soooo boring... all I got out of it, was that I wanted to fuck those aliens (and also... if we can make avatars.. why not let people grow themselves at 20 years old over and over, while keeping just their brain alive?? totally worth more than unobtainium, not to mention the potential for alien sex tours...)

anyway....

I own a Volcano Vaporizer but I found that I overused because its so god damn fun ... whereas taking one little toke out of a pipe actually gives me all I need to treat my anxiety and clinically diagnosed depressive disorder. One toke lasts for hours, and my lungs feel fine. I dont have a car so I ride my bike and walk everyday.

Pot is from the earth. If you don't get use from it, or dont prefer it... dont use it. Don't send innocent people to jail. Prohibition didnt work before, and it doesn't now.








MEGA RANT::::





Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), cannabidiol (CBD) and cannabinol (CBN) are the most prevalent natural cannabinoids and have received the most study


The US government, represented by the Dept of Health and Human services, owns a patent (#6630507) on CBD.

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6630507


Well, one down. Now, about THC?

Well, here is the kind of 3rd grade logic the DEA actually expects you to believe (excerpted from their TOP 10 facts):

DEA Fact 3: Illegal drugs are illegal because they are harmful.
There is a growing misconception that some illegal drugs can be taken safely. For example, savvy drug dealers have learned how to market drugs like Ecstasy to youth. Some in the Legalization Lobby even claim such drugs have medical value, despite the lack of conclusive scientific evidence.

..... what the fuck does that have to do with anything? Ever hear of cigs and alcohol? Not to mention prohibition doesn't work, and the social costs of Marijuana are present without any revenue to offset them. Pot will never go away. Just like Beer.

Here's an interesting fact:

When measured by therapeutic index, most “illegal” drugs are technically safer than alcohol and cannabis is the safest of all with a therapeutic index that’s practically immeasurable. Cannabis is so non-toxic that it’s ratio is estimated to be 1:20,000 to 1:40,000. The DEA’s Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young concluded it would take a man smoking 1,500 lbs. of cannabis in 15 minutes to die of an overdose.



DEA Fact 4: Smoked marijuana is not scientifically approved medicine. Marinol, the legal version of medical marijuana, is approved by science.
According to the Institute of Medicine, there is no future in smoked marijuana as medicine. However, the prescription drug Marinol—a legal and safe version of medical marijuana which isolates the active ingredient of THC—has been studied and approved by the Food & Drug Administration as safe medicine. The difference is that you have to get a prescription for Marinol from a licensed physician. You can’t buy it on a street corner, and you don’t smoke it.

The DEA supports research into the safety and efficacy of THC (the major psychoactive component of marijuana), and such studies are ongoing, supported by grants from the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/marijuana_position.html

As a result of such research, a synthetic THC drug, Marinol, has been available to the public since 1985.
The active ingredient of Marinol is synthetic THC
http://www.justice.gov/dea/ongoing/marinol.html


You will notice, the DEA insists that every marijuana user is a smoker, and therefore its not medicine... when it well known that oxidizing THC by flame turns it into other cannabinoids... and if that is what works for someone.. also, the fact about it being more harmful than cigarettes is bogus. Know what happens when you combust that chemical sludge in your cigs? Radioactive substances. Wonder why you get cancer??


Essentially, if you were allowed to grow the plant yourself, and consume it in a way other than smoking... the DEA has no legs to stand on, in addition to being completely deceptive and trying to make the laws, instead of enforce them as they claim. This kind of practice is seriously unethical.

Governments lie... but why??? Why lie about a medicine and harmless, non toxic drug??? They say its bad, yet they dont really study it, yet the components of the plant are legal in forms you have to pay for from pharmaceutical companies.

You can also make over 20,000 products from Hemp that have NOTHING to do with THC.


http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/sh...ativex&rank=34
^--- oh look, a BOTANICALLY derived non-synthetic that has real medical value in a number of diseases, treating not only symptoms but the disease itself in some cases.




The amount of misinformation is staggering. That will all change because CA will vote to legalize in November.

People who don't "need" to use marijuana don't have to, just like those who don't "need" a beer don't drink them. I also think cigarrettes are disgusting.

Why, when science says otherwise, does the DEA insist on a prohibition they KNOW does NOT work.

In addition, several synthetics have recently been seeing increased availability and use... they are CHEAP to produce, and dont have the same chemical signature... and are in fact, so highly concentrated that people are fucking FREAKING on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-018
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-073
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-081
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-200

Apparently, those ads in the back of high times for "legal buds"... would have gotten you high since about 2002.... if you ordered "Spice Gold" (sold in my state of WA currently as an Incense). But highly prefers one CB receptor over another, unlike REAL pot.

Also, the numerous cannabinoids in pot mitigate each other. Pure THC is a psychotic. CBD is anti psychotic. There are various uses for each cannabinoid, but NO ONE KNOWS because they wont let us know.... but they say its ALL bad. This is really bad, because when Kids find out POT is FINE... they, like me... wonder what else the adults are lying about. So thanks DEA for allowing me to research and see the truth. Other drugs like heroin and ecstacy.... are toxic, and cause physical illness. At any time, comparing these substances to marijuana is illogical. Besides, Alcohol is the WORST, it destroys peoples lives who dont even use it... and its encouraged to down a Coors are the end of the day. Depress your nervous system, courtesy of Uncle Sam.

This shit is so obvious, im a fucking stoner and I see through the smoke. Educate yourself.

http://www.mpp.org
http://www.norml.org




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by vaire100 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im picking up half oz of some excellent smoke, brilliant green with lovely trichomes and nice N. CA aroma.... and going to see clash of the titans 3D this weekend.

I saw avatar the same way... and im glad since it was soooo boring... all I got out of it, was that I wanted to fuck those aliens (and also... if we can make avatars.. why not let people grow themselves at 20 years old over and over, while keeping just their brain alive?? totally worth more than unobtainium, not to mention the potential for alien sex tours...)

anyway....

I own a Volcano Vaporizer but I found that I overused because its so god damn fun ... whereas taking one little toke out of a pipe actually gives me all I need to treat my anxiety and clinically diagnosed depressive disorder. One toke lasts for hours, and my lungs feel fine. I dont have a car so I ride my bike and walk everyday.

Pot is from the earth. If you don't get use from it, or dont prefer it... dont use it. Don't send innocent people to jail. Prohibition didnt work before, and it doesn't now.








MEGA RANT::::





Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), cannabidiol (CBD) and cannabinol (CBN) are the most prevalent natural cannabinoids and have received the most study


The US government, represented by the Dept of Health and Human services, owns a patent (#6630507) on CBD.

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6630507


Well, one down. Now, about THC?

Well, here is the kind of 3rd grade logic the DEA actually expects you to believe (excerpted from their TOP 10 facts):

DEA Fact 3: Illegal drugs are illegal because they are harmful.
There is a growing misconception that some illegal drugs can be taken safely. For example, savvy drug dealers have learned how to market drugs like Ecstasy to youth. Some in the Legalization Lobby even claim such drugs have medical value, despite the lack of conclusive scientific evidence.

..... what the fuck does that have to do with anything? Ever hear of cigs and alcohol? Not to mention prohibition doesn't work, and the social costs of Marijuana are present without any revenue to offset them. Pot will never go away. Just like Beer.

Here's an interesting fact:

When measured by therapeutic index, most “illegal” drugs are technically safer than alcohol and cannabis is the safest of all with a therapeutic index that’s practically immeasurable. Cannabis is so non-toxic that it’s ratio is estimated to be 1:20,000 to 1:40,000. The DEA’s Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young concluded it would take a man smoking 1,500 lbs. of cannabis in 15 minutes to die of an overdose.



DEA Fact 4: Smoked marijuana is not scientifically approved medicine. Marinol, the legal version of medical marijuana, is approved by science.
According to the Institute of Medicine, there is no future in smoked marijuana as medicine. However, the prescription drug Marinol—a legal and safe version of medical marijuana which isolates the active ingredient of THC—has been studied and approved by the Food & Drug Administration as safe medicine. The difference is that you have to get a prescription for Marinol from a licensed physician. You can’t buy it on a street corner, and you don’t smoke it.

The DEA supports research into the safety and efficacy of THC (the major psychoactive component of marijuana), and such studies are ongoing, supported by grants from the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/marijuana_position.html

As a result of such research, a synthetic THC drug, Marinol, has been available to the public since 1985.
The active ingredient of Marinol is synthetic THC
http://www.justice.gov/dea/ongoing/marinol.html


You will notice, the DEA insists that every marijuana user is a smoker, and therefore its not medicine... when it well known that oxidizing THC by flame turns it into other cannabinoids... and if that is what works for someone.. also, the fact about it being more harmful than cigarettes is bogus. Know what happens when you combust that chemical sludge in your cigs? Radioactive substances. Wonder why you get cancer??


Essentially, if you were allowed to grow the plant yourself, and consume it in a way other than smoking... the DEA has no legs to stand on, in addition to being completely deceptive and trying to make the laws, instead of enforce them as they claim. This kind of practice is seriously unethical.

Governments lie... but why??? Why lie about a medicine and harmless, non toxic drug??? They say its bad, yet they dont really study it, yet the components of the plant are legal in forms you have to pay for from pharmaceutical companies.

You can also make over 20,000 products from Hemp that have NOTHING to do with THC.


http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/sh...ativex&rank=34
^--- oh look, a BOTANICALLY derived non-synthetic that has real medical value in a number of diseases, treating not only symptoms but the disease itself in some cases.




The amount of misinformation is staggering. That will all change because CA will vote to legalize in November.

People who don't "need" to use marijuana don't have to, just like those who don't "need" a beer don't drink them. I also think cigarrettes are disgusting.

Why, when science says otherwise, does the DEA insist on a prohibition they KNOW does NOT work.

In addition, several synthetics have recently been seeing increased availability and use... they are CHEAP to produce, and dont have the same chemical signature... and are in fact, so highly concentrated that people are fucking FREAKING on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-018
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-073
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-081
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-200

Apparently, those ads in the back of high times for "legal buds"... would have gotten you high since about 2002.... if you ordered "Spice Gold" (sold in my state of WA currently as an Incense). But highly prefers one CB receptor over another, unlike REAL pot.

Also, the numerous cannabinoids in pot mitigate each other. Pure THC is a psychotic. CBD is anti psychotic. There are various uses for each cannabinoid, but NO ONE KNOWS because they wont let us know.... but they say its ALL bad. This is really bad, because when Kids find out POT is FINE... they, like me... wonder what else the adults are lying about. So thanks DEA for allowing me to research and see the truth. Other drugs like heroin and ecstacy.... are toxic, and cause physical illness. At any time, comparing these substances to marijuana is illogical. Besides, Alcohol is the WORST, it destroys peoples lives who dont even use it... and its encouraged to down a Coors are the end of the day. Depress your nervous system, courtesy of Uncle Sam.

This shit is so obvious, im a fucking stoner and I see through the smoke. Educate yourself.

http://www.mpp.org
http://www.norml.org




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid

You're pretty much exactly right, but your arguments are shaky, your evidence is severely lacking, and your parallels are out of left field. You do a larger disservice to the cause than anyone who spouts off idiotic drivel about how bad pot is. Likening pot to other drugs like X is the last thing we need to do, because the fact is that other drugs ARE harmful, and pot is not in the same league at all.

A much simpler way to say what you said, without making people look up "therapeutic index" (great $10 word btw), is to say:

THC has zero long term negative side effects.

This is a completely true statement. I defy anyone to come up with a single peer-reviewed scientific journal article stating otherwise (there would be MANY).

You say for others to educate themselves, well that kind of implies that you yourself are educated. I beg you to use that education next time you post a rant like this; arrange your points in a loose essay format rather than posting disconnected random thoughts. It will make it much easier to read, and it will draw significantly less fire from the opposition. If I was anti-marijuana I would honestly be using your post as anecdotal evidence for why it's harmful.