Nothxu = Stripped

[Silent]

There are actually quite a lot of AoNs on red99, more so then ever floating around for sale since the disbanding of Nihilum. There were I would say at least 20 AoN's minimum in that guild, lots were on inactive characters or being loaned to people by inactives. So the influx of cloak of flames, rbb's, dragon gear and stuff is no surprise as most is probably from a nihilum member at one point or another. AoN's are valuable, I rank them up there with sow swords and about half or a bit more of a tstaffs value imo. But AoN is trade-able and a SoW sword is not. There have been a few AoNs for sale, But its hard finding someone who is happy with a set amount of plat or gear for a highly sought after item like AoN.

Remember when tstaffs were basically priceless pre nerf, even post nerf? Now there are easily 20-30 or more on server and a market for them.

[Vile]

Originally Posted by Silent [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are actually quite a lot of AoNs on red99, more so then ever floating around for sale since the disbanding of Nihilum. There were I would say at least 20 AoN's minimum in that guild, lots were on inactive characters or being loaned to people by inactives. So the influx of cloak of flames, rbb's, dragon gear and stuff is no surprise as most is probably from a nihilum member at one point or another. AoN's are valuable, I rank them up there with sow swords and about half or a bit more of a tstaffs value imo. But AoN is trade-able and a SoW sword is not. There have been a few AoNs for sale, But its hard finding someone who is happy with a set amount of plat or gear for a highly sought after item like AoN.

Remember when tstaffs were basically priceless pre nerf, even post nerf? Now there are easily 20-30 or more on server and a market for them.

ya man

[Silent]

hey man, what u gettin at bro? u tryin 2 fight me? im 12 years old don't mess with me, i smoke cigs.

[Agatha]

i have never seen so much rmt in my life since nihilum disbanded. its cray cray.

[Derubael]

Read OP, briefly skimmed responses.

Two things:

1) In the past, previous GM's have restored stolen items on Red 99. Policy on that changed around the time I joined the staff as a Guide in August of 2013. It is not our responsibility to track down and return items lost due to players' own error. The chances of your account legitimately being hacked are extremely slim (<1%). The chances that you shared your info with someone, who then shared your info with someone, who then shared your info with two someones, until eventually it got to someone who stole everything is much more likely (>99%). I'm fairly certain that your login history showed definitively that you had shared your info in the past, so this is likely what happened.

One of the main issues here is that if your items have already been disseminated into the economy, we aren't going to then take those items off someone who legitimately purchased them with platinum. We also are not going to "dupe" the items by creating them once they've been sold. And again, even if the items have not been sold, it creates an inordinate amount of work for me (and I already have a long list of things to do every day) for a mistake that shouldn't have happened in the first place.

We have always restored deleted characters on both red and blue. That is an entirely different, and much more simple process.

2) That being said, while we may not return stolen items, we usually do ban the person who took them. This isn't always the case, as it's often extremely difficult to discern what happened in a given situation. I'm not going to give specifics, but this entire process can absolutely be used maliciously, and has in fact been used for this purpose in the past. That is why we are extremely careful in these situations and recommend not sharing your account information.

Also, we generally do reveal where the items went. I had thought I'd given you the players name in your petition thread. If that is not the case, re-petition, label it for me, and I will give you the name of the player who took your stuff when I have some time.

As a final thought, I truly am sorry to anyone who gets their stuff stolen. It's a shitty thing to do to someone, and even shittier to have it happen to you. But it's not something we're going to change policy on. If you don't want your stuff stolen, don't share your info! You may also want to avoid passwords like "12345" and "password". For ultimate protection, use an alpha-numeric password that includes capital letters and special characters in a random order. If that's too hard to remember, use a string of words in place of a single word (IE: "bobbarkerpunchedmyballs" is better than "testicles" or even "testiclepunch".

Good luck and please don't share your info if you continue to play here!

[Swyft]

You guys can say don't share info but on a server with a pop of less than 200, you only have two options.

A. Share account info so you can have the classes you need when you need them to down mobs, and run the risk of having gear stolen.

B. Don't share account info and never have any gear worth stealing.

So saying don't share account info is literally the same as saying don't play here because you'll never get end game gear. Sure a few people will slip by and be able to gear up, but that's only due to 20 other people who took the risk for them.

Maybe the rules should more accurately reflect the lifestyles lead on Red99. Because the don't share account rule on 200 pop server is as redic as pot being illegal.

[Mac Drettj]

allowing 2 boxing would prevent all thievery

legalizeit

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys can say don't share info but on a server with a pop of less than 200, you only have two options.

A. Share account info so you can have the classes you need when you need them to down mobs, and run the risk of having gear stolen.

B. Don't share account info and never have any gear worth stealing.

So saying don't share account info is literally the same as saying don't play here because you'll never get end game gear.

Thats ridiculous, if you neckbeard in a guild that raids, youre gonna get gear.

[Awwalike]

no way nizzar wouldn't do that

[Ames who?]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Read OP, briefly skimmed responses.

Two things:

1) In the past, previous GM's have restored stolen items on Red 99. Policy on that changed around the time I joined the staff as a Guide in August of 2013. It is not our responsibility to track down and return items lost due to players' own error. The chances of your account legitimately being hacked are extremely slim (<1%). The chances that you shared your info with someone, who then shared your info with someone, who then shared your info with two someones, until eventually it got to someone who stole everything is much more likely (>99%). I'm fairly certain that your login history showed definitively that you had shared your info in the past, so this is likely what happened.

One of the main issues here is that if your items have already been disseminated into the economy, we aren't going to then take those items off someone who legitimately purchased them with platinum. We also are not going to "dupe" the items by creating them once they've been sold. And again, even if the items have not been sold, it creates an inordinate amount of work for me (and I already have a long list of things to do every day) for a mistake that shouldn't have happened in the first place.

We have always restored deleted characters on both red and blue. That is an entirely different, and much more simple process.

2) That being said, while we may not return stolen items, we usually do ban the person who took them. This isn't always the case, as it's often extremely difficult to discern what happened in a given situation. I'm not going to give specifics, but this entire process can absolutely be used maliciously, and has in fact been used for this purpose in the past. That is why we are extremely careful in these situations and recommend not sharing your account information.

Also, we generally do reveal where the items went. I had thought I'd given you the players name in your petition thread. If that is not the case, re-petition, label it for me, and I will give you the name of the player who took your stuff when I have some time.

As a final thought, I truly am sorry to anyone who gets their stuff stolen. It's a shitty thing to do to someone, and even shittier to have it happen to you. But it's not something we're going to change policy on. If you don't want your stuff stolen, don't share your info! You may also want to avoid passwords like "12345" and "password". For ultimate protection, use an alpha-numeric password that includes capital letters and special characters in a random order. If that's too hard to remember, use a string of words in place of a single word (IE: "bobbarkerpunchedmyballs" is better than "testicles" or even "testiclepunch".

Good luck and please don't share your info if you continue to play here!

how the fuck did you get my password??