Game Mechanics: Offensive casts should not require pre LoS check

[Nirgon]

I know you don't want this change but this is proof

[Haynar]

LoS checks at beginning of cast are enforced by client too. Taking out the server side los checks wont change this issue.

H

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LoS checks at beginning of cast are enforced by client too. Taking out the server side los checks wont change this issue.

H

Thanks H please move to resolved because I am right and Nirgy never posted proof.

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[Haynar]

I didn't say its beyond fixing. Enjoy your little timers that show on ur buffs. When winter comes, they will go.

H

[Haynar]

PS. I wont remove the LOs checks on begin casting without removing z checks on combat too.

H

[Pikrib]

Haynar did you play EQ PvP?

If you did do you remembered this no LoS check on initial cast?

[MEGANS LAW]

Pikrib, don't put words in my mouth u fuking maggot.

I'm saying that from what I recall, the shock series of mage spells needed a LOS check at the beginning of the spells, while the bolt series needed one at the beginning and end. My memory of a 15 year old elf simulator is obviously circumspect, as is everybody's. That's why such lengthy and verifiable evidence is required for changes.

But there's alot of caveats for what I said. Bolts were notorious for never landing due to elevation changes in terrain or even hitting objects such as trees. Not to mention how water operated on Live.

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by MEGANS LAW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pikrib, don't put words in my mouth u fuking maggot.

I'm saying that from what I recall, the shock series of mage spells needed a LOS check at the beginning of the spells, while the bolt series needed one at the beginning and end. My memory of a 15 year old elf simulator is obviously circumspect, as is everybody's. That's why such lengthy and verifiable evidence is required for changes.

But there's alot of caveats for what I said. Bolts were notorious for never landing due to elevation changes in terrain or even hitting objects such as trees. Not to mention how water operated on Live.

Hrm, I didn't think I put words into yur mouth. Nirgon is saying that spells didn't need a LoS check upon initial cast. You are saying that they did.

[MEGANS LAW]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hrm, I didn't think I put words into yur mouth. Nirgon is saying that spells didn't need a LoS check upon initial cast. You are saying that they did.

I'm saying I recall them requiring a LOS check at the beginning of cast for the shock series. I've been wrong before especially since I was like 14 when I started playing EQ and knew shit about video games and was also high 75% of the time I played.

I'm siding with Syft on the argument but Nirgon has a powerful counterargument as well. Need more evidence and more knowledgeable peoples to contribute.

[Pikrib]

Obviously beneficial heal/buff spells were different and could go through walls. Which is 99% of what I cast.

Pells were flagged beneficial so they might not require LoS if cast in pvp either.