What happened to the population?

[Haymaker]

I remember when this server started it was like 300 people now its like 80-110

[Ssleeve]

Please god don't invite trolls like this.

Short answer: They left to play Blue again.

[Haymaker]

Originally Posted by Ssleeve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please god don't invite trolls like this.

Short answer: They left to play Blue again.

But why? Did they not want to play the classic content over again?

[Slug]

Server had 173 the other night - had 170ish in November. Pretty consistent, people who can't cut it come to the boards and cry about the dying server. It's fine.

[CallnOutTheNubs]

Originally Posted by Haymaker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But why? Did they not want to play the classic content over again?

People with a common sence dont wanna play with known exploiters and cheaters that are caught on fraps - gms watching the whole time.

This suspended bullshit really needs to stop and give out some heavy bans for people caught cheating.

[Billbike]

Exp is to slow.

People have jobs and familys.

Pvp is funnest at 50 when fighting over big things, but considering the required investment of time, not many can endure to max level.

Atleast thats why I'm not so"immersed" or excited about it anymore.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Billbike [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exp is to slow.

People have jobs and familys.

Pvp is funnest at 50 when fighting over big things, but considering the required investment of time, not many can endure to max level.

Atleast thats why I'm not so"immersed" or excited about it anymore.

Their goal is to make a classic server, so this doesn't make sense. That would be like telling Nilbog that eq isn't fun and he should make a classic WoW server. The objective of this project isn't to cater to what the majority wants, it's to emulate classic eq. Also, I have a life outside of eq too, and sometimes I'm so busy that I can't play for a week straight. That just means that it'll take me longer to get to 50. There's nothing wrong with that - in classic, lots of people took forever to level up. If you had dial-up and shared a computer with your two siblings it could take you over a year just to get to level 30. That's not a reason to make the exp rate faster.

Moreover I feel classic exp is necessary for the health of the server, but I'm not going to get into this now as I've already explained myself in twenty other threads already.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by CallnOutTheNubs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People with a common sence dont wanna play with known exploiters and cheaters that are caught on fraps - gms watching the whole time.

This suspended bullshit really needs to stop and give out some heavy bans for people caught cheating.

This and solely this. ^

Anyone crying the experience is too slow is just fucking bad at this game.

PVP deaths cause what? A solo kill or two worth of xp loss? Grow a pair and nut up.

Cheaters, publicly, just get a slap on the wrist. This is severely detrimental to the server's health. Everything else is just vztzjects whining. The majority of the population that has an IQ above pond scum, is playing and enjoying it.

[xblade724]

Originally Posted by Ssleeve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please god don't invite trolls like this.

Short answer: They left to play Blue again.

Order of importance why they left, which is why I left (I just came back to check for exp boost and ruleset on forum; nope):

1) They JUST got max level on their blue when red released when they don't have as much time as we used to as early teenagers when classic was a time killer, and now they had to start ALL the way over at level 1 with no exp boost and spend 100's of hours just to have fun pvp mode. Devs don't get it -- THEY ALREADY HAD THE CLASSIC EXPERIENCE of the grind on blue!!!!

If they wanted to grind, they would stay on blue.

2) No devs had the guts to call it a p99-style pvp server instead of an exact by-the-book classic server. Everyone knows on red, things had to change for the greater good, but we lost our ENTIRE population because no one listens to the community.

3) Exp death ruleset for pvp? What??!

4) Guards broken

5) Game changing exploits that were not fixed (ice comet, mage pet sword, etc)

6) Simple bugs that took too long to change a 0 to 1 to. There were claims that there was not enough time, but things that did not require immediate attention WERE changed often without the community bug reports being fulfilled. For example, instead of bard bugs being fixed (a lot of bards on this server), you ninja patch a desert madman in eruds crossing to be scowl instead of dubious. Wtf..

7) Devs do not respond to the community well -- in fact, most responses are trolls. Love you guys, but it's true. In-game support was legit tho, no worries (Amelinda)

8) Bad timing on release (can't be helped really; there's always going to be something new coming out @ same time). Devs could have cross-advertised, though ... put on blue MOTD advertising red. Even promos "Join now and get DOUBLE exp until level 10!" never implemented anything like this because "it wasnt classic" im sure ........ -___-

9) Remember VANGUARD? The potentially most amazing game in history that I'd still be playing? It had a bomb release and population dropped by 80%. Way later, they fixed everything, but everyone was already gone. Good example to compare to.

10) Xp death too high. Most exp deaths are pvp related and when you get killed by a mob on classic without exp boost constantly from someone harassing you, it's demoralizing and many people quit because of this. In fact, i'd give 50% of the population quitting because of multiple pvp-related exp deaths (mob gets last hit) and too demoralized to get exp back.

11) Resists ... broken.

[fiegi]

Originally Posted by xblade724 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

7) Devs do not respond to the community well -- in fact, most responses are trolls. Love you guys, but it's true. In-game support was legit tho, no worries (Amelinda)

which Devs ever respond to the community here? They are ghosts.