Miscellaneous: Wenglawks Manly Purse

[mefdinkins]

In this they reference all of the bags and can infer these are all the "coin weight reduction bags" because they leave out the non-coin reductions ones?

"Tae Ew Hide Sack
Container: CLOSED.
WT: 0.1 Weight Reduction: 100%
Capacity: 10 Size Capacity: GIANT

http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_...r=035000000000

Really rather an old sack, went in with the CT revamp I think back in 2003. A thought on something requested a while ago, how about some new sacks that line up with that can be died those different bag tints? Perhaps even a new "super bag" at 100% WR and .01 - .08 weight.

Coin Weight Reduction Bag Incarnations:

Dakoit Coin Purse
Weight reduction: 10%
Number of slots: 2
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2376


Tiny Coin Purse
Number of slots: 2
Weight reduction: 20%
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4414

Small Coin Purse
Number of slots: 4
Weight reduction: 30%
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=55114


Gem Pouch
Number of slots: 4
Weight reduction: 30%
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=19382

Medium Coin Purse
Number of slots: 4
Weight reduction: 40%
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5638

Wenglawks Manly Purse
Number of slots: 8
Weight reduction: 70%
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4590

Very Large Coin Purse
Number of slots: 8
Weight reduction: 70%
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6099

Frizznik's Endless Coin Purse
Number of slots: 10
Weight reduction: 90%
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=25255

Braided Horsehair Handbag
Number of slots: 10
Weight reduction: 90%
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=51328
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/q...tml?quest=2907

The last incarnation of any coin weight redux bag was in Gates of Discord. The last droppible/sellible version was the Gem Pouch in LoY chronologically, but it horrible lacks slots and it's a tiny container. The Yelniak bag is currently the reigning champion of droppible coin WR bags, being over 6 years old. Add in the CT revamp, and well the bag market really has remained very, very stagnate. An improved line of WR bags (75->90% with 10 slot, even a 95% perhaps if difficult to make) and some dyed low weight 100% WR bags would energize the market."

dated - Message Edited by Vjik on 01-12-2007 02:52 AM

Post is from https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/...-3#post-713238 This to me is just as strong as the opposing proof that one person said they didn't think it did have coin W.R.


Regards,

[Rygar]

Uhhhh no. Read the alla comments on the manly purse page, literally a oct 2001 post of someone testing this first hand and not experiencing coin reduction.

Also, why would the yelinak bag be 'king after 6 years' if it does exactly the same as the manly purse but drops off a raid mob? And not guaranteed drop to boot.

Sorry, but evidence you listed is too paper thin.

[mefdinkins]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhhhh no. Read the alla comments on the manly purse page, literally a oct 2001 post of someone testing this first hand and not experiencing coin reduction.

Also, why would the yelinak bag be 'king after 6 years' if it does exactly the same as the manly purse but drops off a raid mob? And not guaranteed drop to boot.

Sorry, but evidence you listed is too paper thin.

The reason I brought this up is because I was talking to someone who believed they remembered it to be coin reduction and people doing it on live. I wanted to check and I really struggled to find solid evidence either way.

In his post he calls the Yeli Bag the king of droppable bags, Wenglawks Purse is no drop so he wasn't comparing the two against each other. This is a person posting about the game needing to have better bag options and making suggestions about adding additional coin weight reduction bags. The bag's placement in the list among coin reduction bags suggests that it was a coin W.R. bag.

Additionally, in terms of accessibility we all know Velious came and went quickly on the live servers and this is not the simplest quest - you must be factioned and you need to kill in CS or SG to get the Siren drops. I'm sure the item flew a little bit under the radar because of these barriers compared to some of the items that were heavily farmed.

The only other evidence I could find in support of my position was from a monk on forums saying this a must have bag for every monk -- which is not very probative but suggests to me coin reduction just based on the other "must have items" that were being compared to it. I'll have to see if I can find that again.

I have looked for additional evidence either way and there is nothing very strong that supports/disproves this. The other issue is that later in game coin became weightless so the differentiation between coin and non-coin bags became meaningless.

[mefdinkins]

Also not trying to bump just trying to clarify. The other information on this bug forum about the purse is available here --- https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ight=wenglawks

and ELE states, "Doesn't look like it should reduce coin weight based on posts from 2001.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020127...html?item=4590
https://web.archive.org/web/20020402...html?quest=966

Quote:
No coin weight reduction Reply... By: RenaanHellfire,
34 posts
Posted @ Fri, Oct 5th 9:11 AM 2001 Score: Good[3.50]
40 coins = 1 weight

Wenglawks Manly Purse, 40 coins = 1 weight = no reduction.

Tiny Coin Purse, 50 coins = 1 weight = 20% reduction.

I'll test Large Coin Purse as soon as I get it.

Now this may be just broken and ment to give coin reduction, who knows, but at the moment, it doesn't.

Renaan Hellfire - 60 Monk
Tarew Marr
Enlightened Dark"

Thanks again for your attention to this matter.