Mass Shooting in Aurora, CO

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Amesplayerofgames [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The homicide count for Los Angeles is 300 people in a population of 3.7 million. They have 7.6 murders per 100,000 people while New York City has more then double the amount of people living in a much more confined area with only 6.4 murders per 100,000 people.



Gun control works.

Birth Control works.

but I believe Gun Control does work and more so in these kind of situations.

Furthermore, All guns in the suspect possession were legally obtained, locally, with only a criminal background check. This guy was a PhD student, I highly doubt he had the criminal connections to get the kind of weapons he was using if they weren't readily available at your local gun store.

Gun Control may not be the end all answer, but it definitely prevents non-criminally aligned nut bags easy access to guns.

[LordFresh]

the media loves to spin things. This guy was wearing a gas mask (not bulletproof) and a tactical vest (not bulletproof). He certainly looked the part but this was not a police issued vest or mask.

http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=279073

http://tacticalgear.com/news/colorado-shooting/

[Amesplayerofgames]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ad hominem attacks are displeasing to this debate, I feel your ultra-liberal Marxist arguments have lost.

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[Smedy]

Originally Posted by Caridry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

edit: also look at sweden, 97% of residents have a gun, no special permits/permissions, they just let you, and they have some of the lowest gun crimes in the world.

say what?

no one in sweden owns a gun, i'd say nearly 95% of the population has never even touched a gun besides their non-mandatory military training (yes its free to skip).

to argue if allowing every dickhead in the country to have their own assault rifle affects the outcome of crimes like this is retarded, ofcourse it does.

we would have way higher murder rate if guns were easy to come by, but in sweden its very hard to get a gun license.

however i can tell you, i wouldn't want to live without a gun in usa, knowing how corrupt your goverment is it feels like a free for all when that shit eventually falls apart.

[Caridry]

Originally Posted by Smedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

say what?

no one in sweden owns a gun, i'd say nearly 95% of the population has never even touched a gun besides their non-mandatory military training (yes its free to skip).

to argue if allowing every dickhead in the country to have their own assault rifle affects the outcome of crimes like this is retarded, ofcourse it does.

we would have way higher murder rate if guns were easy to come by, but in sweden its very hard to get a gun license.

however i can tell you, i wouldn't want to live without a gun in usa, knowing how corrupt your goverment is it feels like a free for all when that shit eventually falls apart.

I apologize, you are absolutely correct. I meant the Swiss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g

[lawll]

Even if guns were impossible to obtain, a determined criminal will resort to the next option. Homemade explosives, biological and chemical weapons, they're all options to kill others. The problem isn't guns, it's society as a whole.

[Silentone]

1 person =/= society

[Snagglepuss]

Isolated incidents shouldn't determine policy, but often they do.

It's always going to be a double standard. When guns save lives (such as a home burglery or 7-11 robbery), no one pushes for more guns; however, when a murder happens, people feel the need to ban them. Popular delusions will always take precedence.

[Amesplayerofgames]

Originally Posted by lawll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if guns were impossible to obtain, a determined criminal will resort to the next option. Homemade explosives, biological and chemical weapons, they're all options to kill others. The problem isn't guns, it's society as a whole.

Your right bro I cant get a gun so let me whip up a fucking dirty bomb in my basement. God you are dumb.

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Amesplayerofgames [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your right bro I cant get a gun so let me whip up a fucking dirty bomb in my basement. God you are dumb.

Its not impossible to make an improvised explosive out of fairly common materials. Unless you propose we make fertilizer illegal as well. Im sure you're familiar with Timothy McVeigh?