This server needs Uthgaard back.

[Eccezan]

Excuse me people in TR. Objectively, could someone answer whether they see any issue with purposefully breaking the rules because of perceived breaking of the rules by another guild? Instead of allowing the GM's and guides to do what they volunteered to do.

Do you not see that this issue here? Do you not see where we are going to end up if every time a guild thinks another guild is breaking a rule, they take the law into their own hands and kill steal like you did today?

A few weeks ago TR kited dracolich around for several minutes before engaging while TMO was ready and able to engage. There was even a strong chance that we got FTE on that encounter as well. Sure we could have probably KS'd you there and by your apparent understanding, I guess we would have been in the right and should have done that. TMO leadership at that time chose to back off and call a camp out, given the knowledge that EVEN though you chose to break the rules, we aren't a guild that takes the law into our own hands as it is against the play nice policy. Hey, we know when we are beat.


We mobilized for Dracoliche and we were racing TR for him. Both guilds were going for the pull; TMO was ready with 30+ and TR had under 10 people in the zone.

It's approximately 4 minutes of TR members kiting dracoliche around before pulling him to west wall.

To save you time - Dracoliche appears on this Fraps just before 1:30 although he was aggro before this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6VmG...=youtube_gdata

Around 4:05 is when Zeelot called a non-engage and to camp out to avoid a KS fest with TR. It is our understanding that due to the PNP this is the way GM's would like us to act on the server, not to take the matter in our hands and turn every engage into a KS battle because of perceived rule breaking. Any thoughtful answers are welcomed.

[Francois]

Originally Posted by Dr4z3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you concede that there's no server rule allowing you to interfere with the pull?

Ignore Harrison = that?
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[Dr4z3r]

Originally Posted by Francois [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ignore Harrison = that?
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Please read whole post: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...6&postcount=47

Then, tell me what server rule makes it OK for you to jack a pull, regardless of what else is happening.

[Harrison]

"We were breaking a server rule knowingly. Then you jacked our pull because the rule we were breaking was directly hindering your ability to kill it, we're fucking mad bro."

[burkemi5]

TR have dirty players. accept it.

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by burkemi5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TR have dirty players. accept it.

Compelling argument

[Shiftin]

The answer is that a mob that is being kited is not engaged. A mob that is being taken 8,000+ feet out of the way completely unnecessarily (ignoring that drolgurd STILL got lost) is being kited, regardless of what you claim your intent is.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Francois [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who cares if he remembers it that way, it's not the way to get to TT. Look at the real map and notice that it's almost directly south. He made a mistake, move on.

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And maybe don't throw your guildies under the bus next time.

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Sev spawn is wrong.

[Francois]

Feel free to correct. I know it's somewhere close to that. But it's definitely not east of that spot, and if you say it's to the southwest that means he kited it even further.

[burkemi5]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Excuse me people in TR. Objectively, could someone answer whether they see any issue with purposefully breaking the rules because of perceived breaking of the rules by another guild? Instead of allowing the GM's and guides to do what they volunteered to do.

Do you not see that this issue here? Do you not see where we are going to end up if every time a guild thinks another guild is breaking a rule, they take the law into their own hands and kill steal like you did today?

A few weeks ago TR kited dracolich around for several minutes before engaging while TMO was ready and able to engage. There was even a strong chance that we got FTE on that encounter as well. Sure we could have probably KS'd you there and by your apparent understanding, I guess we would have been in the right and should have done that. TMO leadership at that time chose to back off and call a camp out, given the knowledge that EVEN though you chose to break the rules, we aren't a guild that takes the law into our own hands as it is against the play nice policy. Hey, we know when we are beat.


We mobilized for Dracoliche and we were racing TR for him. Both guilds were going for the pull; TMO was ready with 30+ and TR had under 10 people in the zone.

It's approximately 4 minutes of TR members kiting dracoliche around before pulling him to west wall.

To save you time - Dracoliche appears on this Fraps just before 1:30 although he was aggro before this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6VmG...=youtube_gdata

Around 4:05 is when Zeelot called a non-engage and to camp out to avoid a KS fest with TR. It is our understanding that due to the PNP this is the way GM's would like us to act on the server, not to take the matter in our hands and turn every engage into a KS battle because of perceived rule breaking. Any thoughtful answers are welcomed.

this is a pretty good argument why TR is full of dirty players. also, officers using showEQ, etc etc etc