Spells: Cinda's Charismatic Carillon

[ravi]

Bump

any word on this being fixed...?

[GradnerLives]

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[xblade724]

Absolutely agreed. I spent money on a good wind instrument a while back just for this and STILL realized no effect!

This is broken and had needed attention for a long time. Please fix this during the next patch to add translocate spells next month or 2.

Would love to see some dev attention to this thread.

[Pyrocat]

Originally Posted by Roufas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, that is actually intended.

People must understand the faction is a point thing that goes from -3k points to +3k points.

More or less:
-3000 to -1999 - lowest faction points
-2000 to -751 - Scowls at you ready to attack! (KOS) (approx. 1300 point range)
-750 to -501 - Glares are you threateningly! (KOS) (approx. 250 point range)
-500 to -101 - Glowers at you dubiously. (Not KOS but very close to) (approx. 400 point range)
-100 to -1 - Looks your way apprehensively. (approx. 100 point range)
0 to +99 - Regards you indifferently. (The majority of NPC's have this neutral standing with you) (approx. 100 point range)
+100 to +499 - Judges you amiably. (approx. 400 point range)
+500 to +749 - Kindly considers you. (approx. 250 point range)
+750 to +1099 - Looks upon you warmly. (approx. 450 point range)
+1100 to +2000 - Regards you as an ally. (Highest level of faction attainable) (approx. 1000 point range)
+2001 to +3000 - highest faction points

Taken from another friend's thread.

Basically this song won't move your standing up but it will boost the points, there is a huge chasm between full kos and dubious though.

Even when the song is fixed to let instruments work on them from full kos you would still be kos while playing it, but we never start full kos to any faction so people may have this confusion.

Just FYI those values are not accurate for P99. Apprehensive is at least larger than 100 range.

[ravi]

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[ezri]

Enough evidence was introduced in the first post which indicates wind modifications are classic.

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[worch]

Currently, Cinda's Charismatic Carillon already significantly adjusts faction standing. At 60, it bumps my faction from maxed scowling ("cannot get any worse" faction messages) up to apprehensive in certain situations (e.g. in concert with DE racial faction adjustment).

Given how effective it already is, the base value of the song's faction adjustment should be decreased so as to keep the strength of the song when modified by a high-end instrument (around 22 to 25 modifier) on par with its current effectiveness.

[worch]

Originally Posted by ezri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Currently on P99: This song has no effect at all if you are maximum kill-on-sight faction.

At level 60 it will. You'll notice the song scales up as you level. At 60, the song increases my standing from max kill-on-sight up to threateningly and even up to apprehensive if the racial faction mod is in my favor.

[xblade724]

Originally Posted by worch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At level 60 it will. You'll notice the song scales up as you level. At 60, the song increases my standing from max kill-on-sight up to threateningly and even up to apprehensive if the racial faction mod is in my favor.

Just because it's already good doesn't mean to abandon a bug. There's a lot of classes that get some really cheap spells and you can't discard bards every time they get something nice at lvl 60.

Of course it helps -- it was pretty much the only benefit of getting a better horn in this game. NOTHING else really does anything with horn except this one.

[worch]

Originally Posted by xblade724 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because it's already good doesn't mean to abandon a bug.

Agreed. It should be fixed given the presented evidence. My point is it already significantly raises faction standing, and if the fix simply adds the instrument mod on top of the current song's effectiveness, it would be too powerful. You could increase faction standing from max scowling up to warmly. That'd not be in line with EQSongs:

The size of each faction rank seems to be different so the song may raise you anywhere from 0 to 2 ranks. Using a wind instrument seems to enhance the effect slightly. Using a magic flute will add more faction then a store bought flute.