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Old 05-21-2014, 11:08 AM
aserver1987 aserver1987 is offline
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Default This GM ruling may push me never to play my wizard again

So last night, I was at Seafury Island trying to farm for cash. While setting up a quad kite, I usually pull with my level 1 spell shock of frost (I know some wizards use staff of temperate flux for this process, but this is my method.) Anyways, while in the process of setting up my quad, a necromancer decided to pull a seafury off me, then later claimed he did it because the mob was undamaged, and that it's by rules that because the mob was undamaged and chasing me, he could pull it off me.
I sent a petition to the GM to question what he said, and the GM ruled in his favor. Basically this taught me that if a wizard decides to pull with something like his low level damage spell, or staff of the temperate flux, any other player is allowed to pull whatever mobs he is pulling off him, with no repercussions.
So now the one thing I know wizards are good at (quad kiting) is not protected by any sort of rule, unless we use some kind of inefficient higher damage spell to put more damage on the mob, which the longer cast also puts us in more danger to get caught by whatever mobs may already be chasing us while setting up the quad.
Without any sort of rule to protect me from getting my mobs pulled off me like what this necromancer did, I'm not even sure if I would like to play my wizard anymore. The one thing that makes wizards effective solo's has no sort of rule to protect their pulls. This ruling by the GM makes me not want to play my wizard anymore.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:12 AM
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Not really directly addressing the point here, but if you used a Staff of Temperate Flux, you could dig so much hate into a Seafury that few would ever manage to pull it off of your quad.

Give the staff a shot. It's awesome.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:31 AM
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Not really directly addressing the point here, but if you used a Staff of Temperate Flux, you could dig so much hate into a Seafury that few would ever manage to pull it off of your quad.

Give the staff a shot. It's awesome.
I just might.
To me, losing the main hand item slot, which would cause me to lose 100 or so mana at least, didn't seem worth putting in a free instant cast spell. But if it draws a ton of aggro, it may help contest mobs when needed.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:33 AM
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I just might.
To me, losing the main hand item slot, which would cause me to lose 100 or so mana at least, didn't seem worth putting in a free instant cast spell. But if it draws a ton of aggro, it may help contest mobs when needed.
I was under the impression you could clicky staff from your inventory, not positive on that though.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:35 AM
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I was under the impression you could clicky staff from your inventory, not positive on that though.
You can.

Bro, put the item in your inventory and spam away. You gotta at least try stuff like that without assuming you can't do it.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:41 AM
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You can.

Bro, put the item in your inventory and spam away. You gotta at least try stuff like that without assuming you can't do it.
You learn something new everyday.
I was under the impression you had to equip it to use it, because that's what I saw another wizard doing while quadding.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:42 AM
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I just might.
To me, losing the main hand item slot, which would cause me to lose 100 or so mana at least, didn't seem worth putting in a free instant cast spell. But if it draws a ton of aggro, it may help contest mobs when needed.
You got some learning to do about what your wizard is capable. Leave temp flux in inventory next to your jboots, assign it a hotkey, and go to town. You can also use it to get around the global spell cool down timer and rapid fire your nukes if someone is trying to KS you.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:48 AM
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You got some learning to do about what your wizard is capable. Leave temp flux in inventory next to your jboots, assign it a hotkey, and go to town. You can also use it to get around the global spell cool down timer and rapid fire your nukes if someone is trying to KS you.
Yes, I could rapid fire nukes and get the kill, but you have to understand that is also inefficient, and mostly a win for the necro because then instead of killing 4 mobs, I only kill 1 and have to med for about 8 minutes while he happily goes about his business killing more mobs with his much more mana efficient dots and pet.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:55 AM
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Yes, I could rapid fire nukes and get the kill, but you have to understand that is also inefficient, and mostly a win for the necro because then instead of killing 4 mobs, I only kill 1 and have to med for about 8 minutes while he happily goes about his business killing more mobs with his much more mana efficient dots and pet.
But you've wasted his time, and he's usually less likely to try to steal one from you again. Especially if he's casting expensive dots at it prior to you burning it to death.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:42 AM
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I just might.
To me, losing the main hand item slot, which would cause me to lose 100 or so mana at least, didn't seem worth putting in a free instant cast spell. But if it draws a ton of aggro, it may help contest mobs when needed.
Clicks from inventory. Stick it in your 8th bag slot, hotbar that to slot 1, and spam the hell out of it on anything you pull. You'll generate insane hate.
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